Mourinho or Mancini

Pam said:
OB1 said:
Pam said:
Mourinho does the same thing over and over. Wherever he goes, the situation deteriorates in his third season. This happened with Chelsea and then Milan and now Madrid. Not Manchester though. Don't want him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hate this shit thread. Why can't the mods put it out of its misery.

If you din't like the topic, don't read it.

Forums are for debate.

Fair enough, I suppose, but I can't avoid having to read the title over and over again and it makes us look like spoilt, raggish twats.

You don't half write some childish, silly things............
 
Would he have signed the bunch we got in the summer? 50m completely wasted again. And, what Mancini does sign doesnt seem to be with any plan in mind - no evidence of team building to me. (buys wingers he doesnt use and then critisizes centre forwards for not scoring enough!)

We could have had; Dembele and/or Fellani to cover Yaya, Tiago Silva to play alongside Kompany, or even Bale for that 50m +10m. It seems patently obvious to me for some time that we've needed a world class CB, a winger with pace and a cover for Yaya - we've got none of these, so no wonder we dont score enough, concede too many and are rubbish against top opposition...................it aint rocket science as Mourinho and Pep would say too.
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
Would he have signed the bunch we got in the summer? 50m completely wasted again. And, what Mancini does sign doesnt seem to be with any plan in mind - no evidence of team building to me. (buys wingers he doesnt use and then critisizes centre forwards for not scoring enough!)

We could have had; Dembele and/or Fellani to cover Yaya, Tiago Silva to play alongside Kompany, or even Bale for that 50m +10m. It seems patently obvious to me for some time that we've needed a world class CB, a winger with pace and a cover for Yaya - we've got none of these, so no wonder we dont score enough, concede too many and are rubbish against top opposition...................it aint rocket science as Mourinho and Pep would say too.

You do realise that neither Mancini, Mourinho or Pep would have full control of signings at the club don't you?
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
Would he have signed the bunch we got in the summer? 50m completely wasted again. And, what Mancini does sign doesnt seem to be with any plan in mind - no evidence of team building to me. (buys wingers he doesnt use and then critisizes centre forwards for not scoring enough!)

We could have had; Dembele and/or Fellani to cover Yaya, Tiago Silva to play alongside Kompany, or even Bale for that 50m +10m. It seems patently obvious to me for some time that we've needed a world class CB, a winger with pace and a cover for Yaya - we've got none of these, so no wonder we dont score enough, concede too many and are rubbish against top opposition...................it aint rocket science as Mourinho and Pep would say too.
It's not football manager either
 
andyhinch said:
ANY1aBLUE said:
Would he have signed the bunch we got in the summer? 50m completely wasted again. And, what Mancini does sign doesnt seem to be with any plan in mind - no evidence of team building to me. (buys wingers he doesnt use and then critisizes centre forwards for not scoring enough!)

We could have had; Dembele and/or Fellani to cover Yaya, Tiago Silva to play alongside Kompany, or even Bale for that 50m +10m. It seems patently obvious to me for some time that we've needed a world class CB, a winger with pace and a cover for Yaya - we've got none of these, so no wonder we dont score enough, concede too many and are rubbish against top opposition...................it aint rocket science as Mourinho and Pep would say too.
It's not football manager either

It's this mad little world that some inhabit, everything is so simple, want player get player, bugger the cost, just get me that player, meanwhile the world goes on, I blame food additives myself
 
moomba said:
ANY1aBLUE said:
Would he have signed the bunch we got in the summer? 50m completely wasted again. And, what Mancini does sign doesnt seem to be with any plan in mind - no evidence of team building to me. (buys wingers he doesnt use and then critisizes centre forwards for not scoring enough!)

We could have had; Dembele and/or Fellani to cover Yaya, Tiago Silva to play alongside Kompany, or even Bale for that 50m +10m. It seems patently obvious to me for some time that we've needed a world class CB, a winger with pace and a cover for Yaya - we've got none of these, so no wonder we dont score enough, concede too many and are rubbish against top opposition...................it aint rocket science as Mourinho and Pep would say too.

You do realise that neither Mancini, Mourinho or Pep would have full control of signings at the club don't you?

It's such a shame that Txiki wasn't here earlier. The summer would have been so different.<br /><br />-- Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:09 pm --<br /><br />
andyhinch said:
ANY1aBLUE said:
Would he have signed the bunch we got in the summer? 50m completely wasted again. And, what Mancini does sign doesnt seem to be with any plan in mind - no evidence of team building to me. (buys wingers he doesnt use and then critisizes centre forwards for not scoring enough!)

We could have had; Dembele and/or Fellani to cover Yaya, Tiago Silva to play alongside Kompany, or even Bale for that 50m +10m. It seems patently obvious to me for some time that we've needed a world class CB, a winger with pace and a cover for Yaya - we've got none of these, so no wonder we dont score enough, concede too many and are rubbish against top opposition...................it aint rocket science as Mourinho and Pep would say too.
It's not football manager either

That's true and while it may not have been quite as simple as he makes out, we have the richest owner in world football and we had just become champions of the most watched league in the world so given the circumstances I reckon it would have been relatively straight forward getting in some very decent players as opposed to the rather odd selection of players we actually got.
 
Marvin said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Marvin said:
Interesting as it maybe, I'm not sure how it's relevant to managerial ability.

Not all managers are outgoing people who want to be everyone's friend.

It's my impression that Mancini clashes with players because he is very driven and very motivated
It's enormously important to managerial ability. The best managers have the respect of their players. The best managers build relationships with the players and get the best from them individually through that relationship. It's mancini's biggest failing and the reason why he clashes with so many people.

As costacurta said on live television last week, he's a bit of an arsehole.
You can have respect for a manager / player without liking him.

Do you really know that the players have little respect for Mancini? The results after every bad result suggest that the team spirit in the club is as good as anywhere and that comes from the manager

I don't think you have a leg to stand on but on an on you gol
Billy made the mistake of letting slip things a player has said last week. Arseholes on here were demanding photographic proof, so I'm not taking that bait.
 
Amazes me how many people spend time on a football forum telling everyone the club and the manager will always know best.

It would be redundant to ask why you're all here as freedom of thought seems a rather alien concept to y'all, so you'd have to go check the forum rule book. Anyway, I'm sure there's some great analysis and breaking news you can find on <a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.mcfc.co.uk</a>
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Marvin said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Do you have any idea of what, say, Stuart Pearce was really like? Because I've heard stories about him. But I also know a couple of people who actually know Mourinho and worked with him. And they adore him. People at Chelsea were in tears when he went.

I also spoke to an old boy at Fulham whose job it was to escort the visiting manager around. He had nothing but praise for Mourinho, saying he was an extremely intelligent man who could talk about many different subjects. But more than that, he sent the man an Xmas card and the next season when Chelsea visited, he remembered everything the guy had told him about his family.

Doesn't sound an utter wanker to me. A fair few managers have a completely different persona in front of the cameras.
Interesting as it maybe, I'm not sure how it's relevant to managerial ability.

Not all managers are outgoing people who want to be everyone's friend.

It's my impression that Mancini clashes with players because he is very driven and very motivated
It's enormously important to managerial ability. The best managers have the respect of their players. The best managers build relationships with the players and get the best from them individually through that relationship. It's mancini's biggest failing and the reason why he clashes with so many people.

As costacurta said on live television last week, he's a bit of an arsehole.

Just thought I'd confirm your statement Dave.
"Full credit to Mancini - unbelievable boss.

"He always believes in us and always tells us, 'Guys you have to believe in yourselves, Man Utd can drop some points. The most important (thing is) you have to keep winning games and United can drop some points. If they do it could be enough for us'."

"The job is not done yet. We have to keep going and look after Sunday.

"It would be amazing. It is for that I came to City, to make history, and I hope I will make history in the next week.

"But we know it is going to be tough against QPR because they need the points."
"It is so difficult to change club and country and adapt to a different style of football, and it is down to Roberto Mancini that I have done so well. In my second season in England I feel more settled than ever, on and off the field, and that is down to the manager and his staff. It is because I am happy off the field that I am playing so well on it."
"Roberto is a coach whom supporters love one day and hate the other, but he is a very good professional, one of best,"

"I think he is a very tough coach. He wants the best from each player and that's okay."
 
BillyShears said:
Amazes me how many people spend time on a football forum telling everyone the club and the manager will always know best.

It would be redundant to ask why you're all here as freedom of thought seems a rather alien concept to y'all, so you'd have to go check the forum rule book. Anyway, I'm sure there's some great analysis and breaking news you can find on <a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk</a>

The thing that really bothers me is not that some people will always believe that the club and manager know best but the ones that honestly think that if you don't necessarily believe that the club and manager always know best that you are in some way not being a proper supporter. Fuck knows what these people thought or did when we had the likes of Swales or Lee running the club and Ball or Clark running the team. Given some of our darker moments, I honestly believe that supporters should always be prepared to at least question what is going on.
 

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