Mourinho or Mancini

[Josh Blue]

If we retained the title and won the FA cup what would DD and BS want then?

 

[DrBlueBob]

If we retained the title and won the FA cup what would DD and BS want then?

My guess would be greater success in Europe. Not unreasonable really.

 

[ChrisNUFC]

Ultimately you all have the same end goal (City to be successful) and while you may disagree on the best route to get there surely the fact that you have all got the clubs best interests at heart should provide enough common ground for you to be able to at least empathise with the opposite point of view?

City get enough grief from outsiders at the moment surely all the abuse and insults would be better saved for those who warrant it or come on here giving it the biggun ( Geordie bastards like me for example ;) )

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Genuine question for Billy and the others who dislike Mancini.

Did winning the cup and the league feel tainted (or perhaps joy diluted, I'm trying to pick my words carefully here as it is not my intention to be inflammatory) or could you separate what I would have thought would be conflicting emotions?

Obviously joy at winning I would think but given that it was achieved with Mancini at the helm....

You see this is where things get surreal, and I wonder what goes on in people's heads. Sometimes it's like the manager of a football club is the lead singer of a boy band or something.

I've supported Manchester City FC for my whole life. I've attended the majority of matches since the late 70s. I've seen dozens of managers and hundreds of players come and go.

Why on earth would any victory, let alone a bloody trophy win, be tainted because I don't rate the manager? It's completely and utterly alien logic to me. The manager is just one of the staff. There are always staff who I rate and don't rate. Why would not rating him make any difference whatsoever to me as I ballooned around the Wembley pubs after that game?

What an odd question - to me, anyway.

 

[Anonymous]

The only difference I can see with that is that I changed my mind and your stance on Mancini is more intransigent it seems, hence the question.

It has become more intransigent in the last couple of months without question - but it hasn't always been that way contrary to some of the incredibly revisionist posts by certain people in this thread.

The irony is that I can't win ... a year or so ago I wrote a blog about how Mancini had won me over and how happy I was that he was in charge. It turned into twenty odd pages of abuse from certain posters (again present and accounted for in this thread). So the way I see it ... if I praise Mancini I get called a liar, and I don't praise him I get called someone a prick with an agenda.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:15 pm --<br /><br />

If we retained the title and won the FA cup what would DD and BS want then?

Here's what I don't get about guys like you ...

I have decided I'm not going to talk about City on here now because the likes of Didsbury Dave, Tolmies hairdo and Billy Shears as well as pissed on half breeds get way too much air time.

You swan around the forum talking shit about me, but you think I'm the problem.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Balo & mancini are two totally dif situations ,i guess thats another argument
Tbh billy i think the mods may have done you a favour and took you away from the thread for the night,as it was getting out of hand
Last night i said your comment about mancini was a disgrace and called you a halfwit,i wouldnt say it was that personal.

The ban was overturned ... or should I say turned into an hour long ban ... so I could've posted again last night. I didn't because I wanted to sleep on it before posting.

When I said that things have gotten way too personal I didn't mean what you posted last night, but in general the goading and piss taking on both sides. After all you can't really expect to constantly bump a thread about Mourinho and then not have those guys who really rate him higher than Mancini comment on it ? Then when they do comment it gives you more ammunition to go "see you're a disgrace" or "you're not being fair on Mancini" or some other words to that effect.

You seem to want to have your cake and eat it IMO ...

Fair point and i know where your coming from
Its def better if it gets bumped with the laughing mancini each week,then at least we know city have had a good day :)

 

[bone78]

mancini i reckon

 

[DrBlueBob]

Genuine question for Billy and the others who dislike Mancini.

Did winning the cup and the league feel tainted (or perhaps joy diluted, I'm trying to pick my words carefully here as it is not my intention to be inflammatory) or could you separate what I would have thought would be conflicting emotions?

Obviously joy at winning I would think but given that it was achieved with Mancini at the helm....

You see this is where things get surreal, and I wonder what goes on in people's heads. Sometimes it's like the manager of a football club is the lead singer of a boy band or something.

I've supported Manchester City FC for my whole life. I've attended the majority of matches since the late 70s. I've seen dozens of managers and hundreds of players come and go.

Why on earth would any victory, let alone a bloody trophy win, be tainted because I don't rate the manager? It's completely and utterly alien logic to me. The manager is just one of the staff. There are always staff who I rate and don't rate. Why would not rating him make any difference whatsoever to me as I ballooned around the Wembley pubs after that game?

What an odd question - to me, anyway.

I can see that point of view entirely DD. BS said couldn't stand rather than didn't rate so in my opinion not too daft a question, although I can see how you'd think that. The logic of the question to my mind revolves around wanting Mancini out but any success pushes that further away.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:28 pm --<br /><br />

The only difference I can see with that is that I changed my mind and your stance on Mancini is more intransigent it seems, hence the question.

It has become more intransigent in the last couple of months without question - but it hasn't always been that way contrary to some of the incredibly revisionist posts by certain people in this thread.

The irony is that I can't win ... a year or so ago I wrote a blog about how Mancini had won me over and how happy I was that he was in charge. It turned into twenty odd pages of abuse from certain posters (again present and accounted for in this thread). So the way I see it ... if I praise Mancini I get called a liar, and I don't praise him I get called someone a prick with an agenda.

For the record Billy I'm not into calling you on anything. I rather enjoy your posts. In fact I probably respond to you more than most. Not a stalker either!

 

[Anonymous]

Fair point and i know where your coming from

I appreciate you acknowledging that.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

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I can see that point of view entirely DD. BS said couldn't stand rather than didn't rate so in my opinion not too daft a question, although I can see how you'd think that. The logic of the question to my mind revolves around wanting Mancini out but any success pushes that further away.

But my overriding desire, and the reason I've given a large part of my life to supporting this football club, is success for the club. So if we win things it's mission accomplished. I might want to change manager, but only because I want the best for the club. The night we won the FA Cup I don't think Mancini entered my head particularly. In fact I'm sure I would have been singing his name.