Moyes will win his first trophy before the season starts

Of course the Charity / Community Shield is a trophy, but it's only a minor one.

Any competition where a team has a 50/50 chance of winning it can't be taken that seriously.

For the record, here's a list of previous winners & runners-up...

CHARITY SHIELD ORDER OF MERIT 1908-2012
Team Wins (Shared) Runners-Up
Manchester United 19 (4) 9
Liverpool 15 (5) 6
Arsenal 12 (1) 7
Everton 9 (1) 2
Tottenham Hotspur 7 (3) 2
Chelsea 4 4
Professionals XI 4 2
Wolverhampton Wanderers 4 (3) 2
Manchester City 3 5
Amateurs XI 2 4
Leeds United 2 1
Derby County 2 0
Burnley 2 (1) 2
West Bromwich Albion 2 (1) 2
Portsmouth 2 (1) 1
Newcastle United 1 5
Blackburn Rovers 1 3
Charlton Athletic 1 1
Nottingham Forest 1 1
Sheffield Wednesday 1 1
Sunderland 1 1
Bolton Wanderers 1 0
Brighton & Hove Albion 1 0
Cardiff City 1 0
England World Cup 1950 XI 1 0
Huddersfield Town 1 0
Leicester City 1 0
Aston Villa 1 (1) 3
West Ham United 1 (1) 2
Queens Park Rangers 0 3
Ipswich Town 0 2
Blackpool 0 1
Corinthian 0 1
Coventry City 0 1
FA Canadian Touring Team 0 1
FA XI 0 1
Northampton Town 0 1
Preston North End 0 1
Southampton 0 1
Swindon Town 0 1
Wimbledon 0 1
 
It's not a trophy anymore than the Emirates or Audi Cup is.

The fact it goes straight to penalties if it's a draw tells you all you need to know
 
mancitymick said:
Yes it is a trophy. To be having a chance to win it you have to have won something
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Which Moyes didn't. It will be no more of an achievement for him than beating Wigan in the league (or other substituted relegation candidate). Alas, it will go down in the history books against his name regardless.
 
adrianr said:
mancitymick said:
Yes it is a trophy. To be having a chance to win it you have to have won something
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Which Moyes didn't. It will be no more of an achievement for him than beating Wigan in the league (or other substituted relegation candidate). Alas, it will go down in the history books against his name regardless.
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it is most definitely a trophy. it is played down as the teams are gearing up for the new campaign but its the league winners v the fa cup holders. defo a trophy.

its like saying the ecl winners v europa winners is not a trophy.
 
Gollum has appointed Phil Neville and Ryan Giggs as coaches.
 
It isn't a trophy and it isn't a competitive game in my opinion. The fact you can make six substitutions each kind of tells you that. As others have pointed out, it is a glorified friendly. The UEFA Super CUp is an official trophy as it is a UEFA competition and is played with what I'd say are competitive rules (maximum of 3 substitutions, extra time etc).

But yes, Moyes and all untied fans and the media will claim it to be his first trophy.
 
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