Mr Bates vs the Post Office

[blueste41]

For those that don't know Gareth Jenkins was the IT architect for Fujitsu, he is most certainly going to prison.

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

15:38
Lawyer now providing evidence in the form of a complaint of how Bradshaw bullied a suspect.

Hasn't said "we know where you live" as he was already in his house.
Threatened the guy with the police if he didn't cooperate.
Shouted to get him to admit he'd done it and sign the paperwork.
Searched his house and found nothing.

Bradshaw describing it as a voluntary search, he was professional and comments taken out of context.

Next step could have been to call for his mate Stanley.
45 years working in the PO - nice pension waiting for him.

 

[marco]

i cant recall
maybe once or twice
nothing to do with me
its all above me

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

For those that don't know Gareth Jenkins was the IT architect for Fujitsu, he is most certainly going to prison.

Don't be surprised if there's a raft of Fujitsu documents signed by PO to confirm that the system has been fully tested, all the requirements have been delivered and the Fujitsu call centre process was acceptable for providing support.

Senior PO people will no doubt claim they relied on the IT experts to tell them all was good.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

The one thing that surprised me about the programme, that doesn’t seem to have been discussed much, is that the Post Office have the power to completely bypass the police and take people to court themselves.

Not saying I’ve 100% confidence in the police but their involvement is normally a pretty important step between someone accusing someone else of criminality and that person ending up in jail.

Like I said the RM had archaic laws that allow that. They kept them since becoming no longer "Royal"

I see it like Amazon having the authority to imprison their staff. Crazy.

 

[Blue Maverick]

What is an expert, SB “someone who knows more than an ordinary person”, do you know more about Horizon than than them? Yes but I’m not an expert, fuck me, the guys a twat.

 

[kaz7]

I knew about this scandal a long time ago as i watch this morning every day , it wasnt picked up by the authorities and not because the story wasnt told

 

[blueste41]

Don't be surprised if there's a raft of Fujitsu documents signed by PO to confirm that the system has been fully tested, all the requirements have been delivered and the Fujitsu call centre process was acceptable for providing support.

Senior PO people will no doubt claim they relied on the IT experts to tell them all was good.

That argument has already been blown out of the water. Below is an extract of what became known as "the Clarke advice" (from 2013) it acknowledges that Jenkins knew Horizon contained bugs, errors and defects sufficient enough to cause the discrepancies and acknowledged it meant he had perjured himself in court when he said Horizon was "robust", via e -mail chains it has been proven to have been seen by van den Bogerd and Vennels. It is the sole reason the prosecutions stopped because they could not find another expert witness that would testify in court Horizon was fit for purpose.

 

[mosssideblue]

75k is a fucking insult and most of the public would seem to agree , shocking bad offer

Hopefully, they are told to shove it and come back when you are serious

 

[kaz7]

Hopefully, they are told to shove it and come back when you are serious

I hope so too , the tories are saying we will exonerate you but you must accept a paltry sum in return , lets see if they go ahead and exonerate them if they say we want more than 75k, then we will see sunaks true colours