MUEN - what's gone wrong?

[stuart brennan]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

i never read the muen so i truly haven't kept up with the stories in this thread. the paper has changed, it was always a decent paper for the manchester area. what hasn't changed is its rag bias. i dont know how old mr brennan is or how long he's worked there but 45 years ago when city were top dogs the muen was a disgrace in its protection of the scum. that will have been sympathy following munich, now its pure greed and desperation to flog the shite rag it is to the plastic masses on line.

I can never quite get a handle on people who say "I never read it, but it's shit". Well, I've never met you de Niro, but my guess is you're a 19-year-old Swedish masseuse.
I was three years old, 45 years ago, so can't talk from personal experience, but there are Utd fans who say the MEN was pro-City at that time. I guess that even in 1967 people read what they wanted to read, and saw what they wanted to see.
Again, I ask the questions which no-one answers: Why would we be biased one way or the other, and try to alienate a large section of our potential readership? And why do a lot of Utd fans - and Fergie - think we are pro-City?

 

[TCIB]

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Muffin or Barm, Stuart ?

Barm, every time. A muffin is a mule or a sexual offence. Which brings us back to your favourite Sun journalist

I like this man, if you track back a contract may be on the cards.

I dunno maybe it's his golden saggy chicken skin on his neck, or he basically just blogs his own inane ramblings that irk's me.

So Stuart likes a barm (as all sane members of society do) so you lunatic muffin lovers can bombard his email now with torrents of abuse :)

You should come here a few hours after a loss mate, it will entertain you for hours.

 

[whp.blue]

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i never read the muen so i truly haven't kept up with the stories in this thread. the paper has changed, it was always a decent paper for the manchester area. what hasn't changed is its rag bias. i dont know how old mr brennan is or how long he's worked there but 45 years ago when city were top dogs the muen was a disgrace in its protection of the scum. that will have been sympathy following munich, now its pure greed and desperation to flog the shite rag it is to the plastic masses on line.

I can never quite get a handle on people who say "I never read it, but it's shit". Well, I've never met you de Niro, but my guess is you're a 19-year-old Swedish masseuse.
I was three years old, 45 years ago, so can't talk from personal experience, but there are Utd fans who say the MEN was pro-City at that time. I guess that even in 1967 people read what they wanted to read, and saw what they wanted to see.
Again, I ask the questions which no-one answers: Why would we be biased one way or the other, and try to alienate a large section of our potential readership? And why do a lot of Utd fans - and Fergie - think we are pro-City?

the answer is very simple

someone at the MUEN has wrongly assumed that as trafford united are the worlds biggest club the vast majority of fans in Manchester must be rags

and that sort of poor business decision has been made in all areas of industry for years and just like the Muen they are wrong

and one other thing if all your readership thinks your are anti them your rag is doomed

you need a city fan writing about city who is openly biased and the same for the rags

also if your paper isn't anti city how come the rags are always listed first ?

if you were like any other business alphabetically city would be listed first but it never is a small point but it goes to the small mindedness of the rag fans who seem to be in charge of your rag

and I used to read it and use it for company advertising i no longer do either so rightly or wrongly your paper is loosing paying customers because of your anti city stance which is another poor business decision.

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

i never read the muen so i truly haven't kept up with the stories in this thread. the paper has changed, it was always a decent paper for the manchester area. what hasn't changed is its rag bias. i dont know how old mr brennan is or how long he's worked there but 45 years ago when city were top dogs the muen was a disgrace in its protection of the scum. that will have been sympathy following munich, now its pure greed and desperation to flog the shite rag it is to the plastic masses on line.

I can never quite get a handle on people who say "I never read it, but it's shit". Well, I've never met you de Niro, but my guess is you're a 19-year-old Swedish masseuse.
I was three years old, 45 years ago, so can't talk from personal experience, but there are Utd fans who say the MEN was pro-City at that time. I guess that even in 1967 people read what they wanted to read, and saw what they wanted to see.
Again, I ask the questions which no-one answers: Why would we be biased one way or the other, and try to alienate a large section of our potential readership? And why do a lot of Utd fans - and Fergie - think we are pro-City?

the answer is very simple

someone at the MUEN has wrongly assumed that as trafford united are the worlds biggest club the vast majority of fans in Manchester must be rags

and that sort of poor business decision has been made in all areas of industry for years and just like the Muen they are wrong

and one other thing if all your readership thinks your are anti them your rag is doomed

you need a city fan writing about city who is openly biased and the same for the rags

also if your paper isn't anti city how come the rags are always listed first ?

if you were like any other business alphabetically city would be listed first but it never is a small point but it goes to the small mindedness of the rag fans who seem to be in charge of your rag

and I used to read it and use it for company advertising i no longer do either so rightly or wrongly your paper is loosing paying customers because of your anti city stance which is another poor business decision.

Which just goes to show you don`t read the MEN so how the fuck can you comment on its writings ?

 

[Barcon]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

i never read the muen so i truly haven't kept up with the stories in this thread. the paper has changed, it was always a decent paper for the manchester area. what hasn't changed is its rag bias. i dont know how old mr brennan is or how long he's worked there but 45 years ago when city were top dogs the muen was a disgrace in its protection of the scum. that will have been sympathy following munich, now its pure greed and desperation to flog the shite rag it is to the plastic masses on line.

I can never quite get a handle on people who say "I never read it, but it's shit". Well, I've never met you de Niro, but my guess is you're a 19-year-old Swedish masseuse.
I was three years old, 45 years ago, so can't talk from personal experience, but there are Utd fans who say the MEN was pro-City at that time. I guess that even in 1967 people read what they wanted to read, and saw what they wanted to see.
Again, I ask the questions which no-one answers: Why would we be biased one way or the other, and try to alienate a large section of our potential readership? And why do a lot of Utd fans - and Fergie - think we are pro-City?

The day I logged onto this site was the last day I ever posted, or read anything on the men site. The articles were ridiculously negative towards anything City related, and whenever I tried to respond to a rag supporter that was slagging off City, my post was not shown. I soon became tired of seeing all the arse licking that utd were getting, a polar opposite to the City related articles. It was unfortunate actually, as I had been a poster on there for probably around five years or so. P.S, the negativity actually started just before I left, and was around the same time that a new guy started writing the City articles.

 

[Balti]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

the mmen has always been biased in favour of muffins as far back as I can remember

too many muffin eaters on the editorial staff

they even have a muffin eater reporting on barms so what do you expect?!

 

[Bill]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

i never read the muen so i truly haven't kept up with the stories in this thread. the paper has changed, it was always a decent paper for the manchester area. what hasn't changed is its rag bias. i dont know how old mr brennan is or how long he's worked there but 45 years ago when city were top dogs the muen was a disgrace in its protection of the scum. that will have been sympathy following munich, now its pure greed and desperation to flog the shite rag it is to the plastic masses on line.

I can never quite get a handle on people who say "I never read it, but it's shit". Well, I've never met you de Niro, but my guess is you're a 19-year-old Swedish masseuse.I was three years old, 45 years ago, so can't talk from personal experience, but there are Utd fans who say the MEN was pro-City at that time. I guess that even in 1967 people read what they wanted to read, and saw what they wanted to see.
Again, I ask the questions which no-one answers: Why would we be biased one way or the other, and try to alienate a large section of our potential readership? And why do a lot of Utd fans - and Fergie - think we are pro-City?

perhaps i haven't made myself clear. i stopped buying it because it became shit. as for fergie thinking your paper is pro city he will say anything, absolutly anything to gain favour from any media outlet. tell the muen they are pro city and you lot shit it and all over the twat.

ps
i am NOT a Swedish 19 massuese but i am dating one.

 

[stuart brennan]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

someone at the MUEN has wrongly assumed that as trafford united are the worlds biggest club the vast majority of fans in Manchester must be rags

and that sort of poor business decision has been made in all areas of industry for years and just like the Muen they are wrong

and one other thing if all your readership thinks your are anti them your rag is doomed

you need a city fan writing about city who is openly biased and the same for the rags

also if your paper isn't anti city how come the rags are always listed first ?

if you were like any other business alphabetically city would be listed first but it never is a small point but it goes to the small mindedness of the rag fans who seem to be in charge of your rag

and I used to read it and use it for company advertising i no longer do either so rightly or wrongly your paper is loosing paying customers because of your anti city stance which is another poor business decision.

To address your points:
1. No-one has assumed anything. We do market research, like any company, and we know that our two biggest selling points are United and City. I haven't got the figures, but the sports desk is under no illusion that Utd and City take precedence over everything else, and that we have to try to retain a balance in coverage between the two. To do anything else would be a poor business decision.
2. As deniro said, City fans have said for years we are pro-United (at least 45 years, he says), United fans have said for years we are pro-City, so, if we are doomed, we are clinging on pretty well! The truth is there is a large market of non-paranoid fans of both clubs out there, and they keep us going.
3. Even if we did think the vast majority of people in M/cr are Utd fans, couldn't we still be pro both clubs? We see ourselves as somewhere between the propaganda of the official website, and the excess of the national press. I have written loads of articles defending City against nonsense written in the national press. How does that fit in with our "agenda"?
4. You want a biased reporter rather than someonw who tried to be objective, and offers criticism when it is warranted/ You just need the official website, fella.
5. No idea why United are listed first - if we follow your logic, which appears a bit paranoid to me, Bury should be first. To alternate the order in which the clubs appear on the website would be a big job every day, simply to keep paranoid supporters of both clubs happy.
6. Talking of poor business decisions, you say you stopped advertising because you think we are pro-United? So you were advertising in it out of benevolence, rather than because you thought it benefited your business? How long ago did you stop advertising, because deniro says our pro-United bias is at least 45 years old.

 

[bobmcfc]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

Where is popcorn cat

 

[jrb]

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Come on Stuart, when did the MEN decide to pitch like for like stories on a daily basis?

I've never seen the 'now unsensord comments section'(you should read the commnets) so busy. Almost everyday the MEN pitches both clubs against each other just to wind the fans up and get them at each others throats.(it's good traffic though)

Another thing. It's obvious stories are hard to come by from City and United, but the amount of rehashed stuff the MEN is printing is a joke. I can just see you lot clicking onto Newsnow every morning for your next exclusive. No seriously. If you don't believe me just read the comments page. It's a pisstake matey.

I'm sorry to say this, but the MEN has gone downhill over the years. But I appreciate that times have changed in the media and the MEN is now......(fill in as appropriate)