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munich and the truth
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hooter said:OK, we had Multimillion pound backing back then...........and they sould have gave it all to the past players.Damocles said:Yeah, that's still £15,000 every game on gate receipts, adjusted for inflation works out at around £300,000 every week.
Which part of this are you not getting?
By the way, stop with the whole "times were different" shit. It's now becoming borderline trolling.
Yes, you had Louis Edwards, famed for raising money by selling poisonous meat to schoolchildren. He was that flash that they used to call him 'Champagne Louie'. Not "Meat Pie and Mug of Tea Lou".
On the other point, I don't think it's too much to ask to throw a few hundred quid a month the way of relatives of families members who died in the service of your club whilst earning several million quid a year in profits, no.
Even after this, during the 90s when it came back up again, you could have given them a substantial sum instead of scraps considering the money and fame that you achieved off of their backs.
So true, do you think we are proud of him? he wanted to sell Utd for £7m.Damocles said:hooter said:OK, we had Multimillion pound backing back then......
Yes, you had Louis Edwards, famed for raising money by selling poisonous meat to schoolchildren. He was that flash that they used to call him 'Champagne Louie'. Not "Meat Pie and Mug of Tea Lou"
JoeMercer'sWay
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hooter said:Please do, but let me reply about City and not ban me.mat said:Can we put this in the classics section please?
let you stay and talk about CITY when you know fuck all about your own club?
You're lucky Damo is the mod and I ain't cos you'd have been outta here from page 1.
And you do?JoeMercer'sWay said:hooter said:Please do, but let me reply about City and not ban me.
let you stay and talk about CITY when you know fuck all about your own club?
You're lucky Damo is the mod and I ain't cos you'd have been outta here from page 1.
JoeMercer'sWay
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hooter said:And you do?JoeMercer'sWay said:let you stay and talk about CITY when you know fuck all about your own club?
You're lucky Damo is the mod and I ain't cos you'd have been outta here from page 1.
ooo who's got an attitude...
JoeMercer'sWay
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hooter said:You seem to think fans have a say in the clubs business, we have tried unsuccessfully, I'd love to make the world right, but I can't.
that would be fine and dandy except you knowingly(well actually, clearly you don't) and willingly support the club in every action and message it stands for, so really you do have 1 big almighty say, you just choose not to exercise the right to make your club something that could be remotely morally acceptable, instead you pander to its every disgrace.
If United was unsuccessful would you be so upset.JoeMercer'sWay said:hooter said:You seem to think fans have a say in the clubs business, we have tried unsuccessfully, I'd love to make the world right, but I can't.
that would be fine and dandy except you knowingly(well actually, clearly you don't) and willingly support the club in every action and message it stands for, so really you do have 1 big almighty say, you just choose not to exercise the right to make your club something that could be remotely morally acceptable, instead you pander to its every disgrace.
JoeMercer'sWay
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hooter said:If United was unsuccessful would you be so upset.JoeMercer'sWay said:that would be fine and dandy except you knowingly(well actually, clearly you don't) and willingly support the club in every action and message it stands for, so really you do have 1 big almighty say, you just choose not to exercise the right to make your club something that could be remotely morally acceptable, instead you pander to its every disgrace.
Irrelevant, as I have disdain for other clubs like Liverpool who also play the victim card for their own commercial gain.
Only last weekend did I appeal to the BBC for air time on 606 to raise awareness for the Neil Young Appeal, something I have worked on quite a lot without any attention or fuss for the past month, and get turned down, probably because the cause wasn't such a big story for them.
The Appeal has now raised what we believe to be about £17,000, if the scarves estimation is correct.
We've done that, in 1 month, for 1 player and a cancer trust.
Puts you lot to absolute fucking shame.
That's fantastic, I won't try to make a point about fundraising, that's a very personal thing.JoeMercer'sWay said:hooter said:If United was unsuccessful would you be so upset.
Irrelevant, as I have disdain for other clubs like Liverpool who also play the victim card for their own commercial gain.
Only last weekend did I appeal to the BBC for air time on 606 to raise awareness for the Neil Young Appeal, something I have worked on quite a lot without any attention or fuss for the past month.
The Appeal has now raised what we believe to be about £17,000, if the scarves estimation is correct.
We've done that, in 1 month, for 1 player and a cancer trust.
Puts you lot to absolute fucking shame.
Hooter, did you actually read that article?
Of course, the success of Utd magnifies the hurt for all those who your club have so immorally wounded because that success has been built on their suffering.
You seem to think that because the accident was so long ago that excuses your club of acting in a morally acceptable manner when the testimonial was held, or at the 50th and now. It doesn't.
If you knew Albert Quixall, would you support Utd and their behaviour to his face?
That you continue to support a club as morally bankrupt as yours essentially mean that you support the continued exploitation of the suffering of the very people on whom your success was founded.
Which makes you either stupid or a callous cnut, which is it?
Of course, the success of Utd magnifies the hurt for all those who your club have so immorally wounded because that success has been built on their suffering.
You seem to think that because the accident was so long ago that excuses your club of acting in a morally acceptable manner when the testimonial was held, or at the 50th and now. It doesn't.
If you knew Albert Quixall, would you support Utd and their behaviour to his face?
'It has all been so much PR b******t,' was the verdict of Harry Gregg.
That you continue to support a club as morally bankrupt as yours essentially mean that you support the continued exploitation of the suffering of the very people on whom your success was founded.
Which makes you either stupid or a callous cnut, which is it?
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hooter said:Albert had a free card as a ex player, you think we are the devil, you just believe the boogeyman stories you're Dads told you.
BTW, have a look at you're past, a lot has been hidden.
when we bundled those romany's into a white transit after they cursed maine road?
i agree.
hooter said:Albert had a free card as a ex player, you think we are the devil, you just believe the boogeyman stories you're Dads told you.
BTW, have a look at you're past, a lot has been hidden.
free match tkts? that's big of you, the stuff that's in print is on the record as fact, you can live in denial I suppose but that you choose to ignore it makes you both a stupid and a callous man.
How about educating me on some of our 'hidden" history that you're privy to but we don't know ' cos it's 'hidden' and let's see if we're scared of making a moral judgement them.
Oh and it isn't 'boogeymen' (is that an Americanism?) that inform me, I happen to personally know an ex Utd player who, though not in the crash, had to retire early and was treated like shit by them, so don't give me this "you believe what you want to' bollocks when that's exactly what you're doing whilst I know as a fact whereof I speak.
Callous?.............. stranger-er and stranger-er.lloydie said:hooter said:Albert had a free card as a ex player, you think we are the devil, you just believe the boogeyman stories you're Dads told you.
BTW, have a look at you're past, a lot has been hidden.
free match tkts? that's big of you, the stuff that's in print is on the record as fact, you can live in denial I suppose but that you choose to ignore it makes you both a stupid and a callous man.
How about educating me on some of our 'hidden" history that you're privy to but we don't know ' cos it's 'hidden' and let's see if we're scared of making a moral judgement them.
hooter said:Callous?.............. stranger-er and stranger-er.lloydie said:free match tkts? that's big of you, the stuff that's in print is on the record as fact, you can live in denial I suppose but that you choose to ignore it makes you both a stupid and a callous man.
How about educating me on some of our 'hidden" history that you're privy to but we don't know ' cos it's 'hidden' and let's see if we're scared of making a moral judgement them.
You've completely ignored the question though.
Because the last time I did i was banned, don't forget, I'm a RAG.stony said:hooter said:Callous?.............. stranger-er and stranger-er.
You've completely ignored the question though.
hooter said:Callous?.............. stranger-er and stranger-er.lloydie said:free match tkts? that's big of you, the stuff that's in print is on the record as fact, you can live in denial I suppose but that you choose to ignore it makes you both a stupid and a callous man.
How about educating me on some of our 'hidden" history that you're privy to but we don't know ' cos it's 'hidden' and let's see if we're scared of making a moral judgement them.
Do you not class not giving a fuck about your players families welfare ass callous?
Oh and it isn't 'boogeymen' (is that an Americanism?) that inform me, I happen to personally know an ex Utd player who, though not in the crash, had to retire early and was treated like shit by them, so don't give me this "you believe what you want to' bollocks when that's exactly what you're doing whilst I know as a fact whereof I speak.
And answer th original question.
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hooter said:Because the last time I did i was banned, don't forget, I'm a RAG.stony said:You've completely ignored the question though.
if you ignore a question on a debate about your team, and then claim this get out clause, well..
only someone like damocles or denro will ban you, the other mods are not fascist
spit it out lad.