My opinion about Kolarov

Re: The truth about Kolorov

jayblue said:
franksinatra said:
jayblue said:
kolarov is bobbins. hasnt got a clue how to defend. defending is quite important when you are a left sided defender. bobs fault tonight. always pick your best team. the end !

Its rotation mate all the top managers around the world do it, which suggests there maybe a good reason for it.

You could argue Kolarov and Zaba should have played against Newcastle, however for that game Dzeko and Silva were rested, maybe due to the travel and exertions of a play-off game
i agree with rotation mate but for such an important game you should play your best team. if silva and yaya can play every week then so can cliche and micah. yes i know silva didnt play the full game against newcastle but he hasnt missed much. bobs team selection lost us the game tonight and nothing will change my mind.

We play a narrow formation pal generally requiring the full backs to bomb on to provide the width we dont have without wingers.

Mancini has mentioned it before the fullbacks on our team do more running, an opinion I guess supported by the sports science stats, which can also assess a players physical condition.

Newcastle came to our place unbeaten and we had already rested Dzeko and Silva, Mancini must have judged it as too great a risk
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

Georgian Maestro said:
Shaelumstash said:
LongsightM13 said:
Kolarov was very poor tonight. But he was far from the only one. He is an easy target.
Fan favourites like Silva, Mario, Hart and Yaya should be asking questions of themselves after that game tonight. They flopped again on the big stage.
But Kolarov is the bluemoon scapegoat du jour. He didn't miss sitters or let a weak shot through his arms though.
Are you fucking sure??

I rate Kolarov and love Zaba as a character and think he's good enough against inferior opposition but not quite good enough for the really big games.

To me the question is this - if tonight had been the European cup final, given current form and fitness, would Kolarov, Zaba, De Jong and Dzeko start ahead of Clichy, Richards, Barry and Aguero?

If not, then why did they play tonight in our biggest game of the season so far? Big mistake from Mancini. He's made very few this season and he is a brilliant manager, but sometimes you've got to hold your hands up.

If he had wanted to rest Richards and Clichy, he should have rested them on Saturday at home against an average Newcastle attack. Not playing those two pacy full backs against one of the quickest counter attacking forward lines in Europe is baffling.

In Mancini we trust, but he got it wrong tonight.

100% agree

same here, baffling for me but first mistake of the season i suppose and he'll learn from it.
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

Shaelumstash said:
LongsightM13 said:
Kolarov was very poor tonight. But he was far from the only one. He is an easy target.
Fan favourites like Silva, Mario, Hart and Yaya should be asking questions of themselves after that game tonight. They flopped again on the big stage.
But Kolarov is the bluemoon scapegoat du jour. He didn't miss sitters or let a weak shot through his arms though.
Are you fucking sure??

I rate Kolarov and love Zaba as a character and think he's good enough against inferior opposition but not quite good enough for the really big games.

To me the question is this - if tonight had been the European cup final, given current form and fitness, would Kolarov, Zaba, De Jong and Dzeko start ahead of Clichy, Richards, Barry and Aguero?

If not, then why did they play tonight in our biggest game of the season so far? Big mistake from Mancini. He's made very few this season and he is a brilliant manager, but sometimes you've got to hold your hands up.

If he had wanted to rest Richards and Clichy, he should have rested them on Saturday at home against an average Newcastle attack. Not playing those two pacy full backs against one of the quickest counter attacking forward lines in Europe is baffling.

In Mancini we trust, but he got it wrong tonight.
Oh come on, I love Joe as much as any blue but he was very poor tonight, especially on the second goal. He is far from the finished article at this level.
But blame Kolarov if it makes you feel better.
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

city 'til i cry said:
If you read it he suggests people should support the other lot rather have an opinion. That's the problem I have with the comment.
You did, but that's his opinion, something which you expressed in your post, which is vital to the forum.

I can understand where he is coming from, I'm sick of idiots who continually slag Kolarov off because he isn't fashionable to like. Not only that, some people just like to woman, whether it's because we aren't what we used to be or players aren't like they used to be and aren't like the common man and don't do normal things or are to like a normal man and go and have a drink at the weekend.

These people who don't appreciate where we are today and the players we have compared to what we used to have either need to have a look at themselves or as SWPISHOME says, get fucked (paraphrasing, hope you don't mind SWPISHOME).

Just my opinion.
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

borassic said:
Georgian Maestro said:
Shaelumstash said:
Are you fucking sure??

I rate Kolarov and love Zaba as a character and think he's good enough against inferior opposition but not quite good enough for the really big games.

To me the question is this - if tonight had been the European cup final, given current form and fitness, would Kolarov, Zaba, De Jong and Dzeko start ahead of Clichy, Richards, Barry and Aguero?

If not, then why did they play tonight in our biggest game of the season so far? Big mistake from Mancini. He's made very few this season and he is a brilliant manager, but sometimes you've got to hold your hands up.

If he had wanted to rest Richards and Clichy, he should have rested them on Saturday at home against an average Newcastle attack. Not playing those two pacy full backs against one of the quickest counter attacking forward lines in Europe is baffling.

In Mancini we trust, but he got it wrong tonight.

100% agree

same here, baffling for me but first mistake of the season i suppose and he'll learn from it.

Thats the problem with rotation if the team loses it will always be open to criticism. However for long periods we were the better team, gave away two very poor goals and missed a number of chances.

On another day that performance could easily have won us the game, so you could also argue the selection was correct just not the result
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

franksinatra said:
jayblue said:
franksinatra said:
Its rotation mate all the top managers around the world do it, which suggests there maybe a good reason for it.

You could argue Kolarov and Zaba should have played against Newcastle, however for that game Dzeko and Silva were rested, maybe due to the travel and exertions of a play-off game
i agree with rotation mate but for such an important game you should play your best team. if silva and yaya can play every week then so can cliche and micah. yes i know silva didnt play the full game against newcastle but he hasnt missed much. bobs team selection lost us the game tonight and nothing will change my mind.

We play a narrow formation pal generally requiring the full backs to bomb on to provide the width we dont have without wingers.

Mancini has mentioned it before the fullbacks on our team do more running, an opinion I guess supported by the sports science stats, which can also assess a players physical condition.

Newcastle came to our place unbeaten and we had already rested Dzeko and Silva, Mancini must have judged it as too great a risk
if our tactics are for our fullbacks to do more running then why buy kolorov who cant run as fast as my mum in her slippers ?
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

jayblue said:
franksinatra said:
jayblue said:
i agree with rotation mate but for such an important game you should play your best team. if silva and yaya can play every week then so can cliche and micah. yes i know silva didnt play the full game against newcastle but he hasnt missed much. bobs team selection lost us the game tonight and nothing will change my mind.

We play a narrow formation pal generally requiring the full backs to bomb on to provide the width we dont have without wingers.

Mancini has mentioned it before the fullbacks on our team do more running, an opinion I guess supported by the sports science stats, which can also assess a players physical condition.

Newcastle came to our place unbeaten and we had already rested Dzeko and Silva, Mancini must have judged it as too great a risk
if our tactics are for our fullbacks to do more running then why buy kolorov who cant run as fast as my mum in her slippers ?

Because running is not just about speed, its also about having an engine to get up and down the pitch. Kolarov has that in abundance and like many players with great engines they arent always the fastest, Gareth Barry for example.
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

franksinatra said:
jayblue said:
franksinatra said:
We play a narrow formation pal generally requiring the full backs to bomb on to provide the width we dont have without wingers.

Mancini has mentioned it before the fullbacks on our team do more running, an opinion I guess supported by the sports science stats, which can also assess a players physical condition.

Newcastle came to our place unbeaten and we had already rested Dzeko and Silva, Mancini must have judged it as too great a risk
if our tactics are for our fullbacks to do more running then why buy kolorov who cant run as fast as my mum in her slippers ?

Because running is not just about speed, its also about having an engine to get up and down the pitch. Kolarov has that in abundance and like many players with great engines they arent always the fastest, Gareth Barry for example.
completely disagree. constantly out of position due to lack of pace. if you dont have pace you need intelligence. barry has this and kolorov is as numb as a piss stone
 
Re: The truth about Kolorov

jayblue said:
Ric said:
jayblue said:
show me a premier league team that consistantly wins in europe

Um, I can't. But not quite sure what your point is? Even Barca and Real rotate. Premier League teams don't have a god given right to win every game in Europe.
if micah and cliche wudda played tonight i dont think we'd be having this conversation

I don't think it was purely the full backs who cost us the game tonight. Yaya had one of his poorest games in a City shirt, Dzeko was ineffective, Balotelli looked too eager to please; it was a collectively lethargic performance. I don't thnk changing the full backs would've changed that.
 

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