Pigeonho said:I would say RVP got up very aggressively and slipped, which made it look worse but there was no intention to head butt like Nasri clearly did. If you move your head as though to head butt an opponent like Nasri did, you are just asking to be sent off. Nothing bizarre about noticing that, because that's what happened.Marvin said:Van Persie has to be dragged off Williams. He attacked him. You could argue his anger was understandable. I think the ref got the RVP / Williams spat right.Pigeonho said:Totally different. Van Persie gets up to confront Williams but at no point does he headbutt or do the headbutting motion. Nasri did the same as van Persie by getting up to confront Bassong, but he then did the headbutting motion and that is a straight red. He was stupid to do that.
But that "spat" was much more violent - from both players - than Nasri Bassong. It's bizarre that you could claim that Nasri was more violent than RVP.
By no way am I agreeing its worthy of a sending off, just saying that by the rule book it is a sending off and appealing it would be silly.SWP's back said:I think the world's gone soft if a player gets sent off for that.Pigeonho said:Course, if there's something to back. Put it this way, if Rooney this weekend goes to headbutt someone in the exact same way Nasri did and got sent off, would you say it was harsh?SWP's back said:Not in your house I'd guess.
Are football fans not normally known to back their club/player on things such as this?
Btw, since the derby, we have received 7 reds to their 0. Rooney would never be sent off for that.
stonerblue said:Pigeonho said:I would say RVP got up very aggressively and slipped, which made it look worse but there was no intention to head butt like Nasri clearly did. If you move your head as though to head butt an opponent like Nasri did, you are just asking to be sent off. Nothing bizarre about noticing that, because that's what happened.Marvin said:Van Persie has to be dragged off Williams. He attacked him. You could argue his anger was understandable. I think the ref got the RVP / Williams spat right.
But that "spat" was much more violent - from both players - than Nasri Bassong. It's bizarre that you could claim that Nasri was more violent than RVP.
he didn't slip, he was tripped by a defender and that probably stopped him chinning the other lad.
Pigeonho said:I can't argue against that because like you and Moomba before you have said, the refs are inconsistent. Nasri did nothing other than (in the laws of the game) attempt to headbutt Bassong, but that is not acceptable as far as the rules of the game go and for that the ref had no choice. Appealing the decision with the footage against Nasri being readily available would be silly, because on the basis of the rules of the game having been applied, the sending off was correct no matter how soft or hard the actual 'headbutt' was.SuperKevinHorlock said:Pigeonho said:Ha, I knew someone would say that ;-)
For arguments sake, lets say he has been...
I'm predictable like yourself!
Soft red card in my opinion and I would say the same if the same thing happened to Rooney!
However as the refs are so inconsistent I would imagine that the same instance happening again would probably warrant yellow cards.
MSP said:No appeal, Daily Mail reports.
citytill1die84 said:MSP said:No appeal, Daily Mail reports.
Men says we already have and that he'll play tomorrow.