Negredo allegedly signed

[samharris]

Re: Negredo just signed

I'd prefer less of the trumpet blowing (although I think he's doing it to wind people up, which is working), but who really cares? It's a forum that I visit to debate about football, I don't come on here to make internet friends with people. From what I've seen his appraisals on players/tactics are well thought out and on the mark, the same of which cannot be said for a lot of the forum.

-- 18 Jul 2013, 16:58 --


So you had to go back 2 years to find the first post of his that you disagree with? Seems like his knowledge isn't too bad then.

Play Nasri centrally and I think you get his Arsenal form. Where he was every bit as good as Mata is now.

Nice appraisal from him,on our new forward isn`t it !!!!!

Underwhelmed. We've missed out on an opportunity here, Ibrahimovic was available but we've settled for a player in Negredo who will be fourth choice by the end of the season. £20m on a 27 year old fourth choice player? Not good. This 'holistic' approach where we cut out any problem players is really starting to grind on me, we could have secured Ibrahimovic on a three year deal and got two or three years of world class service from him.

Negredo isn't better than Dzeko, you'll all be sick of him within 12 months I can guarantee it. Our first choice line up should look like

Yeah, I agree with that fully. I'd happily play Dzeko before Negredo.

Is that what this is about? Because he had the mere audacity to not be wanking over a new signing?

Are you honestly saying that you dont know what this is about..??

try this;

"I am a genuine student of the game, spending hours per day watching games, reading and writing football, so I'm a level or two above most posters."

shame he's a level or two below us in humility.

 

[ElanJo]

He might be similar to Dzeko in some respects but he looks more suited to the PL to me. He is aggressive, much more physically robust and looks like he has an RVP-esque left peg.

Initial 16m and 4m if we win the big titles doesn't look bad to me. Sevilla don't seems like greedy fucks unlike some others. He's also 'only' on 75k a week apparently.

Time will tell

 

[adrianr]

Re: Negredo just signed

This MJM bloke's posts are interesting to read. At least he actually explains and backs up his opinions. Rather have people like him on here over the people that post 2 word/gif replies to everything when they can't actually debate.

You can do that without acting like a pompous arse. Why should anyone give him or his views any respect if his default position is utter disrespect of others?

I'd prefer less of the trumpet blowing (although I think he's doing it to wind people up, which is working), but who really cares? It's a forum that I visit to debate about football, I don't come on here to make internet friends with people. From what I've seen his appraisals on players/tactics are well thought out and on the mark, the same of which cannot be said for a lot of the forum.

-- 18 Jul 2013, 16:58 --

Can't really take MJM seriously as a 'Student of the game', first post 'Nasri was a better signing than Mata'.

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=231316&p=4770268#p4770268

So you had to go back 2 years to find the first post of his that you disagree with? Seems like his knowledge isn't too bad then.

Play Nasri centrally and I think you get his Arsenal form. Where he was every bit as good as Mata is now.

Nasri was never, and I really do have to stress the word never, ever as good at Arsenal as Mata has been this past season.

 

[John.des]

Sevilla was built around him, to make many chances and he had to finish, he didnt do a bad job but missed lot of clear cut chances as well.

He started about 98% of Sevilla's league matches so thats how he got 20+ goals.

Dont think he will be such influental player here or the team will be built around him. Surely we will make chances for him to score and hopefully he scores 10 maybe 15 goals a season for us.

But most of his playing time will be coming off the bench that is realistic for me.

Doubt he will start many league games except if big injuries happen to Agüero or Dzeko or Jovetic.

Dzeko last season started only 16 (!) league games for us, ad that was with Agüero having different injuries and Balotelli not being here since January.

Negredo will only start about the same 15-20 matches at best or not even that much.

 

[Proelia]

You can do that without acting like a pompous arse. Why should anyone give him or his views any respect if his default position is utter disrespect of others?

I'd prefer less of the trumpet blowing (although I think he's doing it to wind people up, which is working), but who really cares? It's a forum that I visit to debate about football, I don't come on here to make internet friends with people. From what I've seen his appraisals on players/tactics are well thought out and on the mark, the same of which cannot be said for a lot of the forum.

-- 18 Jul 2013, 16:58 --

Can't really take MJM seriously as a 'Student of the game', first post 'Nasri was a better signing than Mata'.

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=231316&p=4770268#p4770268

So you had to go back 2 years to find the first post of his that you disagree with? Seems like his knowledge isn't too bad then.

Play Nasri centrally and I think you get his Arsenal form. Where he was every bit as good as Mata is now.

Nasri was never, and I really do have to stress the word never, ever as good at Arsenal as Mata has been this past season.

No your right Nasri was better when he had his run of form with arsenal

 

[MJMRuiz]

Re: Negredo just signed

very very good post.

agree with the midfield issue of the quicker transisition, as well as yaya's role in the team .

To add to what you said about us lacking a touchline hugging winger.....

I reckon the threat of having one will enable us to do two things we couldn't llast year.

1. stretch defences.
2. have a genuine threat away from home on the counter attack

Yeah, the second point is the key and I touched on that slightly. I do think, especially in Europe, we need more of a counter attacking threat, and we also need to improve our pressing as a unit, which I'm sure will happen under Pellegrini. Pellegrini's sides have always been brilliant counter attacking sides, but given the talent at his disposal we're likely to control most domestic games, I don't see counter attacking being a huge issue in the PL, but it'll be vital in the CL. Dzeko is actually a very good counter attacking player, which for me makes Negredo's signing even more confusing.

Historically Pellegrini has used smaller strikers more effectively. His 4222 system at Villarreal was hugely successful, using the Nihat and Rossi combination, that's what I was hoping he'd aim to recreate here at City. Aguero fits the bill perfectly, he's 100% a Pellegrini striker, couldn't find a better striker in world football who fits all of Pellegrini's ideologies. All I want is for Jovetic to be Aguero's partner in crime for that 4222, which again, renders the Negredo signing quite useless when we already have Dzeko here, we really should have been looking for an Aguero type.

 

[Akai]

The Argentina international played against the striker during his time at Espanyol and claims the club's latest signing has what it takes to succeed in the Premier League

Pablo Zabaleta believes Alvaro Negredo will be a success at Manchester City.

The 27-year-old striker agreed a move to the Etihad Stadium following the departure of Carlos Tevez, with Sevilla indicating on Wednesday that he will make the move to England subject to a medical.

Zabaleta says he is excited about the potential arrival of the Spaniard and thinks he will be a big hit at the club when manager Manuel Pellegrini is able to finalise the deal.

"Negredo is someone I've played against — he's a good striker," the Argentina international said. "A typical number nine. I’d say he is similar to Edin Dzeko, a tall player.

"He works very well inside the box or drops deep to receive the ball when he has to."
Zabaleta played in La Liga for Espanyol and came up against the Spain international on numerous occasions, and he has seen enough to convince him that he will be able to make an impact in the Premier League.

"He's scored many goals every season in Spain. He did well at Almeria and Sevilla.

"If he's the one we bring in then it will be because the manager has 100 per cent confidence about him and I would expect him to do well."

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: Negredo just signed

I'd prefer less of the trumpet blowing (although I think he's doing it to wind people up, which is working), but who really cares? It's a forum that I visit to debate about football, I don't come on here to make internet friends with people. From what I've seen his appraisals on players/tactics are well thought out and on the mark, the same of which cannot be said for a lot of the forum.

-- 18 Jul 2013, 16:58 --


So you had to go back 2 years to find the first post of his that you disagree with? Seems like his knowledge isn't too bad then.

Play Nasri centrally and I think you get his Arsenal form. Where he was every bit as good as Mata is now.

Nice appraisal from him,on our new forward isn`t it !!!!!

Underwhelmed. We've missed out on an opportunity here, Ibrahimovic was available but we've settled for a player in Negredo who will be fourth choice by the end of the season. £20m on a 27 year old fourth choice player? Not good. This 'holistic' approach where we cut out any problem players is really starting to grind on me, we could have secured Ibrahimovic on a three year deal and got two or three years of world class service from him.

Negredo isn't better than Dzeko, you'll all be sick of him within 12 months I can guarantee it. Our first choice line up should look like

Yeah, I agree with that fully. I'd happily play Dzeko before Negredo.

Is that what this is about? Because he had the mere audacity to not be wanking over a new signing?

In that case I can only assume you are related ... probably the placenta !!!

 

[MJMRuiz]

Nah it has to be said, Nasri hasn't developed well. He's an immense technical footballer but he doesn't use his ability well enough, Mata does. Mata has been the better signing, but Nasri could have easily been at a similar level if he developed well enough and played like he did when he won Arsenal's POTM two months running. We've seen glimpses of it, but that's nowhere near enough to be a hit at City. Mata on the other hand, has developed into a genuinely world class player. 20 goals and 35 assists last season, that is absolutely outstanding.

 

[adrianr]

I'd prefer less of the trumpet blowing (although I think he's doing it to wind people up, which is working), but who really cares? It's a forum that I visit to debate about football, I don't come on here to make internet friends with people. From what I've seen his appraisals on players/tactics are well thought out and on the mark, the same of which cannot be said for a lot of the forum.

-- 18 Jul 2013, 16:58 --


So you had to go back 2 years to find the first post of his that you disagree with? Seems like his knowledge isn't too bad then.

Play Nasri centrally and I think you get his Arsenal form. Where he was every bit as good as Mata is now.

Nasri was never, and I really do have to stress the word never, ever as good at Arsenal as Mata has been this past season.

No your right Nasri was better when he had his run of form with arsenal

There's little point judging players being very good over short periods of time (In Nasri's case IIRC his best 'season' at Arsenal was actually a few months leading up to Christmas). Mata did it all season, he got more assists than Nasri probably has in the last 5 years of his professional career, and 20 goals to boot. I actually think Nasri has more talent, but Mata can apply the talent he has far more consistently. 20 goals and 35 assists is a season Nasri can only dream of at this moment in time, he was certainly nowhere near it at any point in his Arsenal career.