Neil Young demands Spotify remove his music.

That really isn't an accurate description of his guests at all, lets face it most of the hate generated towards him is for allowing a few right leaning guests on his show.

'A few', I would disagree with that and I think Joe has now also acknowledged himself that he's been going too far down the conspiracy theorist loony tunes type vibe on his show. He's had Alex Jones on there a few times, which whatever - but the guy is a complete psycho.

I found some of the talking points with Jordan Peterson pretty disturbing this week as well such as the whole rant over 'whether someone is technically black'.
 
Hers a list of his guests from a year and a half ago. Some fascinating folks and a lot of comedians. But FFS if you platform people like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannapoulos (among many, MANY others) whatever good and interesting work you do with Neil deGrasse Tyson is going to be questioned and should be.

 
Rogan:
“I’m not trying to be controversial,” he insists. “I’m going to do my best in the future to balance things out…If I pissed you off, I’m sorry.”
(and paraphrased): "I'm a big fan of Joni Mitchell, particularly Chuck E's in Love."


Obviously, no idea if he's being truthful about being a fan (or, well, any of it - I suspect it will balanced in his opinion but not everyone's). Are we to assume that it was just carelessness in his being a fan of Joni Mitchell, because Chuck E's in Love was by Rickie Lee Jones.
 
Hers a list of his guests from a year and a half ago. Some fascinating folks and a lot of comedians. But FFS if you platform people like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannapoulos (among many, MANY others) whatever good and interesting work you do with Neil deGrasse Tyson is going to be questioned and should be.

Those two are worse than the anit vaxer stuff. Alex Jones is the worst of the worst.

Spotify have been asleep at the wheel allowing characters like that to get anywhere near there platform. Rogan might survive this but he will have to change and you can bet Spotify will be more awake (woke) from now on. As they should be.
 
If you’re the kind of person that takes medical advice from a ufc commentator/comedian then you’re probably fucked in life anyway.

Whilst I agree, the last year or so has demonstrated that there is quite a large portion of society who do in fact and are susceptible to this sort of advice.
 
Those two are worse than the anit vaxer stuff. Alex Jones is the worst of the worst.

Spotify have been asleep at the wheel allowing characters like that to get anywhere near there platform. Rogan might survive this but he will have to change and you can bet Spotify will be more awake (woke) from now on. As they should be.

Hard to know what Rogan gets out of putting someone like Alex Jones on his show, whether it's for his own amusement or maybe just capture some of that audience. Whatever his reasoning for it is, Jones is a pretty dangerous person and is quite clearly mentally disturbed to a degree.
 
Those two are worse than the anit vaxer stuff. Alex Jones is the worst of the worst.

Spotify have been asleep at the wheel allowing characters like that to get anywhere near there platform. Rogan might survive this but he will have to change and you can bet Spotify will be more awake (woke) from now on. As they should be.

Why should they be woke? We should be getting away from woke people deciding what you can & can't talk about. There should be the freedom the discuss ideas. If you don't like the ideas then challenge them.
 
Why should they be woke? We should be getting away from woke people deciding what you can & can't talk about. There should be the freedom the discuss ideas. If you don't like the ideas then challenge them.
You dont get it - people like Alex Jones have no right to be heard. He has ideas that are offensive and disgusting and have no place in a civilised society. He has his own platform and if you want to listen to BS you can tune in to that. He is banned from pretty much every respectable platform for good reason. Spotify let him sneek on here as a guest and they dropped the ball. They wont do it again.
 
Why should they be woke? We should be getting away from woke people deciding what you can & can't talk about. There should be the freedom the discuss ideas. If you don't like the ideas then challenge them.
Offending isn't the same thing as talking about. You can talk about whatever you like.
 
Whilst I agree, the last year or so has demonstrated that there is quite a large portion of society who do in fact and are susceptible to this sort of advice.
I've long concluded that's just Darwin in action picking off the stupid. Covid is doing some nasty things to society, because the decision to not have the vaccine is in many cases potentially more detrimental to others around them than the person making that choice. This leads us to a situation where anti- vaxers are persecuted rather than just ignored or laughed at as would be the case if they espoused other conspiracy stuff. That persecution comes from fear, as does the anti-vax sentiment. I've come across 3 anti vaxers out of about 100 folk where I work. The two who I know to talk to well are genuinely terrified of the vaccine and sense the world closing in around them as various freedoms (and some of our work opportunities) become the sole prevail of the vaccinated. Not a representative sample, but if these two, one is way below average intelligence, and the other has a serious recent history of psychosis. I get frustrated with them, but their fear is genuine if not rational. I guarantee that anything like this Spotify spat or other censorship they will pounce on as proof of a grand conspiracy.
 
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You dont get it - people like Alex Jones have no right to be heard. He has ideas that are offensive and disgusting and have no place in a civilised society. He has his own platform and if you want to listen to BS you can tune in to that. He is banned from pretty much every respectable platform for good reason. Spotify let him sneek on here as a guest and they dropped the ball. They wont do it again.
Alex jones should be heard like anyone else and if you cannot come to a sane conclusion after listening to him then I’m not sure what to tell you.
 
You dont get it - people like Alex Jones have no right to be heard. He has ideas that are offensive and disgusting and have no place in a civilised society. He has his own platform and if you want to listen to BS you can tune in to that. He is banned from pretty much every respectable platform for good reason. Spotify let him sneek on here as a guest and they dropped the ball. They wont do it again.
Did you see any of rogans Alex Jones stuff? It actually exposes Jones quite cruelly I think rather than gives him a platform. I watched one part of one several 3-4hr things Rogan has done with him and it's tragic. Jones hit the whiskey, becoming more uninhibited and blurting out one conspiracy after another while Rogan and his wing man pretty much took the piss. I saw Jones as the dangerous info wars ranty bloke before, but after this I see him now as just a loon. The fact that Rogan just gently teases the bullshit out was no platform for Jones really. If anything that show should be removed for mocking the mentally ill rather than giving Jones a platform.
 
I've long concluded that's just Darwin in action picking off the stupid. Covid is doing some nasty things to society, because the decision to not have the vaccine is in many cases potentially more detrimental to others around them than the person making that choice. This leads us to a situation where anti- vaxers are persecuted rather than just ignored or laughed at as would be the case if they espoused other conspiracy stuff. That persecution comes from fear, as does the anti-vax sentiment. I've come across 3 anti vaxers out of about 100 folk where I work. The two who I know to talk to well are genuinely terrified of the vaccine and sense the world closing in around them as various freedoms (and some of our work opportunities) become the sole prevail of the vaccinated. Not a representative sample, bit if these two, one is way below average intelligence, and the other has a serious recent history of psychosis. I get frustrated with them, but their fear is genuine if not rational. I guarantee that anything like this Spotify spat or other censorship they will pounce on as proof of a grand conspiracy.
But those people get their ideas from somewhere.

Pre social media newspapers and TV were the source of peoples views and journalists and editors would get called out for blatantly false BS. Imagine if Polio was a new disease now v's how it was dealt with back in the 50's.
 
Lets be honest here, Spotify aren't going to lose any sleep over not being able to play Neil Young or Joni Mitchel songs.
 
But those people get their ideas from somewhere.

Pre social media newspapers and TV were the source of peoples views and journalists and editors would get called out for blatantly false BS. Imagine if Polio was a new disease now v's how it was dealt with back in the 50's.

Honestly mate I think the more you restrict these people the more glamourised they are.

just let them air their theories and watch them sink themselves in a sea of nonsense. As a previous poster said it was embarrassing to watch jones on rogan get slowly pissed and reveal himself as a crank.
 
But those people get their ideas from somewhere.

Pre social media newspapers and TV were the source of peoples views and journalists and editors would get called out for blatantly false BS. Imagine if Polio was a new disease now v's how it was dealt with back in the 50's.
True. I was trying to think of a recent parallel and the best I can come up with is the thing about MMR. Iirc there were similar issues - the unvaccinated potentially caused a resurgence of almost eradicated disease, but I suppose the difference is they only endangered themselves. It originated from some debunked research, passed into urban myth of sorts and then just petered out as the original claims/research became more discredited. The bullshit was exposed rather than eradicated I think
 

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