Nelson Mandela RIP

Bluemoon115 said:
dan.j.mcfc said:
Here's a question for all you people who have a dislike of Mandela, why post in a remembrance thread about him?
Because that's how certain people will "remember" him.

It's the internet. It's not his funeral.

To go out of your way to comment on the death of anybody who you don't like in my view is pretty sad.
 
Johnsonontheleft said:
johnmc said:
Johnsonontheleft said:
How exactly can murder be 'righted'?

Ok. So should anyone who murders should not be given a chance to rehabilitate ever. So if you murder at say 18 then at 50 you can't be a different person with different views. No one is saying he is a saint by any means. You are obviously of the opinion a murderer should serve the rest of their lives in prison (or you believe in capital punishment). That's your opinion and I obviously respect that. I don't agree with it though. (Mandela was never convicted of murder anyway)

How many murders do you think Mandelas actions after being released prevented? It takes a strong person in my eyes to have one view, then totally turn on that and preach the opposite to the extent he did.

Thanks for respecting my opinion. I respect yours too. In my view if someone commits murder they should lose their right to live. But some things aren't murder (eg if a father kills the person who raped and murdered his daughter I wouldn't call that murder, I would call it justice). It all boils down to 'were Mandela's killings justified?'

Do you actually practice being a dick?
 
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Rip two of my best days in the 1980's Nelson Mandela was release from prison
And the Berlin Wall came down
 
mcmanus said:
Johnsonontheleft said:
johnmc said:
Ok. So should anyone who murders should not be given a chance to rehabilitate ever. So if you murder at say 18 then at 50 you can't be a different person with different views. No one is saying he is a saint by any means. You are obviously of the opinion a murderer should serve the rest of their lives in prison (or you believe in capital punishment). That's your opinion and I obviously respect that. I don't agree with it though. (Mandela was never convicted of murder anyway)

How many murders do you think Mandelas actions after being released prevented? It takes a strong person in my eyes to have one view, then totally turn on that and preach the opposite to the extent he did.

Thanks for respecting my opinion. I respect yours too. In my view if someone commits murder they should lose their right to live. But some things aren't murder (eg if a father kills the person who raped and murdered his daughter I wouldn't call that murder, I would call it justice). It all boils down to 'were Mandela's killings justified?'

Do you actually practice being a dick?
You read that and still had to ask?
 
dan.j.mcfc said:
Bluemoon115 said:
dan.j.mcfc said:
Here's a question for all you people who have a dislike of Mandela, why post in a remembrance thread about him?
Because that's how certain people will "remember" him.

It's the internet. It's not his funeral.

To go out of your way to comment on the death of anybody who you don't like in my view is pretty sad.
And in what way is posting on this thread "going out of your way"?
 
Important guy and all that but BBC1, BBC2 and ITV suspend all programmes for eulogies!
Bloody hell!
 
Johnsonontheleft said:
johnmc said:
ban-mcfc said:
Top bloke Paul, having the balls to say it.

Murdering **** Mandela.

After which he preached peace. No one is saying he is an angel. He admits his sins. But he sought to right his wrongs more than you could ever expect him to do.

How exactly can murder be 'righted'?
In the context of an oppressive regime, terrorism/murder is an legitimate force in the pursuit of freedom. When Britain's freedom was threatened in WW2 the RAF thought nothing of bombing Dresden and killing innocent Germans if it brought the war to a quicker end
Anyway looking forward to Bono addressing the nation
 
solley attwell said:
Johnsonontheleft said:
johnmc said:
After which he preached peace. No one is saying he is an angel. He admits his sins. But he sought to right his wrongs more than you could ever expect him to do.

How exactly can murder be 'righted'?
In the context of an oppressive regime, terrorism/murder is an legitimate force in the pursuit of freedom. When Britain's freedom was threatened in WW2 the RAF thought nothing of bombing Dresden and killing innocent Germans if it brought the war to a quicker end
Anyway looking forward to Bono addressing the nation

What?


That was war. Officially sanctioned war. Not blowing up officially sanctioned women and children in train stations.
 

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