Netherlands General Election

From what I’ve read PVV got more votes than the last two elections winners (governments). I wouldn’t say stunning, but a far right party winning the majority of seats is pretty seismic

He didn’t win the majority of seats, he won a plurality of seats.

Which amounts to 37 out of 150. Is it a lot? Yes. Are moderate Dutch parties getting outnumbered by the far-right? Not even close.

The next best three parties have 25, 24 and 20 respectively and they are all moderate centre-left to centre-right parties.
 
From what I’ve read PVV got more votes than the last two elections winners (governments). I wouldn’t say stunning, but a far right party winning the majority of seats is pretty seismic
Not if there is one far right party with 37 seats and ten not far right parties with 113. 25% of people would still vote for the far right party in Britain.
 
That's like saying you're an avocado because I called you one. Witches ain't real immigrants are. It twas that simple.
Alright. I'll leave that one there.

As for your second point people are easily influenced and stupid people more so. Why do these people get conned by the mail and Tommy two cells and not the the mirror and Gallaway for instance?

Why cant the intelligent scorners fool these stupid folk. Its not a closed club for the right only to talk shite.
Left wing grifters absolutely can do the same thing, and the history of the 20th century shows that you can just as equally have a far left revolution as a far right one. I've seen just as many anti-BBC left wingers in recent weeks because of the war in Palestine as I saw anti-BBC right-wingers through covid, for example.

The difference in our current society though, is that there's not the commercial incentive to push left wing ideals. There might be an incentive for individual people like Galloway, and specific organisations like Just Stop Oil. But those with money and power prefer the low taxation, low regulation, free market, right wing agenda, and they also happen to be major donors to political parties and major advertisers in the media. As a result, they are able to massively influence the discourse of public life. Not just what we should think about X, Y and Z, but whether they even get talked about at all.
 
Katie **** ebdorsing him and pictures of him with timmy little cock has the half dozen BM right wingers all excitable I see.
What a waste of spunk some of you are.
 
Katie **** ebdorsing him and pictures of him with timmy little cock has the half dozen BM right wingers all excitable I see.
What a waste of spunk some of you are.

Not very nice is it?

Politician wins an election in Holland and it’s all the fault of a few posters on here?

Get a grip man.
 
Not very nice is it?

Politician wins an election in Holland and it’s all the fault of a few posters on here?

Get a grip man.
Who mentioned fault? Katie and Tommy are two of the most despicable people currently polluting the U.K. and they look like they are endorsing the newest fruit loop vying for power.
We then have the half dozen right wingers who are all over every similar thread reminding us just how right wing they are and it gives me the perfect opportunity to call them out for what they are. It’ll never be something nice.
My grip is fully got thanks.
 
Who mentioned fault? Katie and Tommy are two of the most despicable people currently polluting the U.K. and they look like they are endorsing the newest fruit loop vying for power.
We then have the half dozen right wingers who are all over every similar thread reminding us just how right wing they are and it gives me the perfect opportunity to call them out for what they are. It’ll never be something nice.
My grip is fully got thanks.

All I did was mention pancakes and the Nuremburg trials started almost immediately :)
 
Alright. I'll leave that one there.


Left wing grifters absolutely can do the same thing, and the history of the 20th century shows that you can just as equally have a far left revolution as a far right one. I've seen just as many anti-BBC left wingers in recent weeks because of the war in Palestine as I saw anti-BBC right-wingers through covid, for example.

The difference in our current society though, is that there's not the commercial incentive to push left wing ideals. There might be an incentive for individual people like Galloway, and specific organisations like Just Stop Oil. But those with money and power prefer the low taxation, low regulation, free market, right wing agenda, and they also happen to be major donors to political parties and major advertisers in the media. As a result, they are able to massively influence the discourse of public life. Not just what we should think about X, Y and Z, but whether they even get talked about at all.
It's ironic to mention the commerciality of various media. The Guardian for example is a leading left-leaning newspaper and you have to pay to read their articles, talk about accessibility! It seems to me that the more right leaning media is more popular not because of influence but because more people are interested in their content, and often that content is not political.

Let's face it, nobody wants to read relentless political shite, I certainly don't turn to certain media to try and find the latest on political issues. For example, I think the Palestine issue is somewhat important but I'm not going to read about it every single day and certainly most people won't read anything about it.

The mistake that the left continually makes is that they believe everything is a political campaign where all they need to do is take everyone on a journey of enlightenment. However that is alienating to most people who have to work for a living and for example aren't going to care so much to glue themselves to roads or go on protests.
 
It's ironic to mention the commerciality of various media. The Guardian for example is a leading left-leaning newspaper and you have to pay to read their articles, talk about accessibility! It seems to me that the more right leaning media is more popular not because of influence but because more people are interested in their content.
It's been a while since I've read an article on there, but I can't remember ever encountering a paywall on The Guardian website. Meanwhile, the Times, Telegraph and Sun all operate paywalls for their content and were definitely the first to do so out of all the big papers in the UK.
 
It's been a while since I've read an article on there, but I can't remember ever encountering a paywall on The Guardian website. Meanwhile, the Times, Telegraph and Sun all operate paywalls for their content and were definitely the first to do so out of all the big papers in the UK.
Looking at it I don't think that actually the Guardian has a paywall but it does have a begging bowl.

Either way, COVID proved to me what daily news can do to your mental health and it certainly divides us more than ever. I don't think that any media organisation is innocent left or right, they all exist to make money and they all function therefore exactly the same.

The fact is however we're far happier when we don't know and don't care and that's the one thing they do not want, that also counts for non-profits.

Blissful ignorance is hard though because we're bombarded constantly all the time and that's because they want your clicks and they want us to get angry about things.
 

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