New York City FC Thread (new away kit P245)

[SlimShadyRus]

Re: New York City

So, what could you say about NYCFC squad? Did they perform good in those two friendlies?

In my opinion, the next step is to sign ex-City players, including club-growns, like Wright-Phillips brothers, Barton, Richard Dunne, etc, on a non-DP contract. What do you think about it? Probably Damarcus Beasley, he was amazing in Brazil, but also has a dp-contract

P.S. All other MLS clubs have proper players with non-designated contracts, we only have goalkeeper Saunders and a couple of experienced MLS rejects. Toronto impress with Cheyrou and Perquis joining them. Foreign players are limited and there are no class american players from MLS who'd sign a non-dp contract or somebody who'd want to return there.

 

[Rösler von Stretfordbömber]

Re: New York City

how on earth are the cubs and city similar?the cubs have been one of the most commercially successful teams, but haven't performed, they haven't won in over 100 years, and have a stadium filled with tourists with no knowledge of the team , or the sport for that matter. outdated bathrooms are pretty much the only similarity.

How difficult is it to read a full paragraph?

I said the Cubs had more in common with the old Typical City than any other team. I wasn’t referring to the commercial aspect of either club.

Perhaps you’ve forgotten, (although your use of the word bathroom suggests that you might be American and not aware) that City were once renowned for self inflicted farce and how our fans were admired for stoicism and good humour despite a major trophy drought.

Have you ever heard of the phrase Typical City because your sneering and totally inaccurate portrayal of the Cubs fanbase indicates otherwise.

The Cubs are known as the Loveable Losers, but City have experienced dozens of Steve Bartman moments.

There really is no American analog to City. Cubs fans lack the passion, creativity, and guile of "typical City". They both wear blue and they've both lost a lot, but that's about where it ends.

I was trying pretty hard to think of one and just can't.

The Cubs were always the number one club in Chicago by a good distance, Certainly City always had close to or even more Manc fans than the vermin, yes. But the White Sox have almost as weak a history as do the Cubs AND far, far, far less fans locally or nationwide. The Cubs were always a very national team. One of the two or three most supported baseball clubs in the US since they started being on WGN.

I'd almost compare "old" City to the New York Mets - ironically - far more so than anyone else. Share the same locality with a soulless gigantic club followed by glory-hunters all over the world. Had a lovable losers mentality back in the early-mid 1960's. Have won a handful of titles over the course of their history. Most fans of the club are people who live in the actual city. Won it all one year after one of City's titles. ('69 to '68).

Hey, no offence intended Cubs' fan! I happen to love baseball and respect almost all of the clubs. Ironically, again, other than the Yankees. Who used to have some sort of quasi-partnership with the rags and for which I am having a very hard time forgiving them.

 

[Tbilisi]

Re: New York City

So, what could you say about NYCFC squad? Did they perform good in those two friendlies?

In my opinion, the next step is to sign ex-City players, including club-growns, like Wright-Phillips brothers, Barton, Richard Dunne, etc, on a non-DP contract. What do you think about it? Probably Damarcus Beasley, he was amazing in Brazil, but also has a dp-contract

P.S. All other MLS clubs have proper players with non-designated contracts, we only have goalkeeper Saunders and a couple of experienced MLS rejects. Toronto impress with Cheyrou and Perquis joining them. Foreign players are limited and there are no class american players from MLS who'd sign a non-dp contract or somebody who'd want to return there.

They performed well in my opinion although hard to judge in friendly games.Some good teams in MLS so will be a tough start up season(like Melbourne)but im sure it will come good in the end,inevitable with our owners.

Re ex City players I agree with you as a City fan but not sure that would appeal to the fans we want to attract over in the USA....Lampard may get Chelseas fans turning up for instance.

 

[SlimShadyRus]

Re: New York City

So, what could you say about NYCFC squad? Did they perform good in those two friendlies?

In my opinion, the next step is to sign ex-City players, including club-growns, like Wright-Phillips brothers, Barton, Richard Dunne, etc, on a non-DP contract. What do you think about it? Probably Damarcus Beasley, he was amazing in Brazil, but also has a dp-contract

P.S. All other MLS clubs have proper players with non-designated contracts, we only have goalkeeper Saunders and a couple of experienced MLS rejects. Toronto impress with Cheyrou and Perquis joining them. Foreign players are limited and there are no class american players from MLS who'd sign a non-dp contract or somebody who'd want to return there.

They performed well in my opinion although hard to judge in friendly games.Some good teams in MLS so will be a tough start up season(like Melbourne)but im sure it will come good in the end,inevitable with our owners.

Re ex City players I agree with you as a City fan but not sure that would appeal to the fans we want to attract over in the USA....Lampard may get Chelseas fans turning up for instance.

No doubt we should sign a star and a classy player in one for a 3rd designated player position, but, personally, I'd dont mind it to be an american player, there are many good american footballers, it would both make NYCFC more popular and bring us a good player who is country-grown. SIgning the likes of Beckerman or Wright-Phillips as a non-DP, I think, will be decisive.

By the way, Soriano has mentioned in one of his interviews, that City players may end their careers at Melbourne or NYCFC. I bet one day we'll see someone moving there, like our own Lampard or Gerrard, but in good sense, still being in City Football Group. First star player who moves there may be Zaba if he won't end his career at Manchester and won't want to end it in Argentina or Spain. And the first City's player retiring that way, I believe, will be Demichelis, signing for NYCFC this summer

 

[Falastur]

Re: New York City

So, what could you say about NYCFC squad? Did they perform good in those two friendlies?

In my opinion, the next step is to sign ex-City players, including club-growns, like Wright-Phillips brothers, Barton, Richard Dunne, etc, on a non-DP contract. What do you think about it? Probably Damarcus Beasley, he was amazing in Brazil, but also has a dp-contract

P.S. All other MLS clubs have proper players with non-designated contracts, we only have goalkeeper Saunders and a couple of experienced MLS rejects. Toronto impress with Cheyrou and Perquis joining them. Foreign players are limited and there are no class american players from MLS who'd sign a non-dp contract or somebody who'd want to return there.

The NYCFC fans have already been up in arms over their links to City. SIgning the odd player here or there would be acceptable, especially if the player is young and can offer something for the future, but if NYCFC started signing handfuls of old City players who were no better than anyone else they could sign then there's going to be proverbial blood spilled, and you're going to see large parts of the fanbase simply giving up and saying "I'm not dealing with this anymore".

Also, you have to bear in mind that a non-DP contract means an annual wage of a little over £200,000, so good luck getting any of those players to agree to play for so little money. Also MLS team are actually capped at 8 foreign players (NYCFC are allowed 9 due to trading with another team), but NYCFC already has almost 9 internationals, so you're not going to be able to fit these players in the squad very easily (except DaMarcus Beasley, admittedly, but he's already signed for an MLS team).

 

[SlimShadyRus]

Re: New York City

So, what could you say about NYCFC squad? Did they perform good in those two friendlies?

In my opinion, the next step is to sign ex-City players, including club-growns, like Wright-Phillips brothers, Barton, Richard Dunne, etc, on a non-DP contract. What do you think about it? Probably Damarcus Beasley, he was amazing in Brazil, but also has a dp-contract

P.S. All other MLS clubs have proper players with non-designated contracts, we only have goalkeeper Saunders and a couple of experienced MLS rejects. Toronto impress with Cheyrou and Perquis joining them. Foreign players are limited and there are no class american players from MLS who'd sign a non-dp contract or somebody who'd want to return there.

The NYCFC fans have already been up in arms over their links to City. SIgning the odd player here or there would be acceptable, especially if the player is young and can offer something for the future, but if NYCFC started signing handfuls of old City players who were no better than anyone else they could sign then there's going to be proverbial blood spilled, and you're going to see large parts of the fanbase simply giving up and saying "I'm not dealing with this anymore".

Also, you have to bear in mind that a non-DP contract means an annual wage of a little over £200,000, so good luck getting any of those players to agree to play for so little money. Also MLS team are actually capped at 8 foreign players (NYCFC are allowed 9 due to trading with another team), but NYCFC already has almost 9 internationals, so you're not going to be able to fit these players in the squad very easily (except DaMarcus Beasley, admittedly, but he's already signed for an MLS team).

There always are proper and even star players on a basis salary in MLS. What about foreign players - we can always get rid of someone

 

[Falastur]

Re: New York City

So, what could you say about NYCFC squad? Did they perform good in those two friendlies?

In my opinion, the next step is to sign ex-City players, including club-growns, like Wright-Phillips brothers, Barton, Richard Dunne, etc, on a non-DP contract. What do you think about it? Probably Damarcus Beasley, he was amazing in Brazil, but also has a dp-contract

P.S. All other MLS clubs have proper players with non-designated contracts, we only have goalkeeper Saunders and a couple of experienced MLS rejects. Toronto impress with Cheyrou and Perquis joining them. Foreign players are limited and there are no class american players from MLS who'd sign a non-dp contract or somebody who'd want to return there.

The NYCFC fans have already been up in arms over their links to City. SIgning the odd player here or there would be acceptable, especially if the player is young and can offer something for the future, but if NYCFC started signing handfuls of old City players who were no better than anyone else they could sign then there's going to be proverbial blood spilled, and you're going to see large parts of the fanbase simply giving up and saying "I'm not dealing with this anymore".

Also, you have to bear in mind that a non-DP contract means an annual wage of a little over £200,000, so good luck getting any of those players to agree to play for so little money. Also MLS team are actually capped at 8 foreign players (NYCFC are allowed 9 due to trading with another team), but NYCFC already has almost 9 internationals, so you're not going to be able to fit these players in the squad very easily (except DaMarcus Beasley, admittedly, but he's already signed for an MLS team).

There always are proper and even star players on a basis salary in MLS. What about foreign players - we can always get rid of someone

The star players on basic salary in MLS are the Americans - national team players who went to Europe and then yearned for home, or the young ones who have been persuaded to stay by a manager they look up to when they could be doing better things abroad. As for foreign players - well as I said, NYCFC doesn't really have any more space in its squad for foreign players, but who are you thinking of? Are you talking about City players still? I'm not sure of how many of our players are A - expendable, B - willing to go to MLS and C - willing to play for £200k/year.

 

[Blue Haze]

Re: New York City

If anyone is interested, NYCFC plays in the Carolina Challenge match against Orlando in 3 minutes.

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYBqA5X9bw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYBqA5X9bw</a>

Villa and apparently Kaka are playing

 

[Sergi0 Na5r1]

Re: New York City

If anyone is interested, NYCFC plays in the Carolina Challenge match against Orlando in 3 minutes.

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYBqA5X9bw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYBqA5X9bw</a>

Villa and apparently Kaka are playing

Wow those yank commentators are awful. Very annoying and boring voices, mispronouncing every name incuding Kaka and then they announce no goal after every minute like they expect a goal a minute in football. And then the cameraman focuses like he's wanking off with his other hand..
lol I hope the commentary during the actual season is better

Kaka just scored now.

 

[Falastur]

Re: New York City

The refereeing in this game should be a good reminder to all of us of just how bad refereeing can be, for all of those times when we think we've got it bad. Referee has just given his 4th yellow card in the 40th minute of a friendly, and he's been giving fouls for absolutely everything. I didn't personally see it, but there were people complaining about 20 minutes ago that the ref gave an offside against NYCFC in their own half...