New York City FC

[Jacob Smith]

The way it is in all sports. The only sport that has a travelling fanbase is College Football (American) and they are mainly retirees. Country is too big. The upside is that our television coverage is the best in the world. I live in the states and have better access to televised City games than folks living in Manchester.

Yeah my grandad lives in Tampa and he took me to the Bucs stadium tour and I was amazed to hear that the Bucs don't fill the ground but the college team do, this is is 60,000+ seater stadium! That's unthinkable in the UK, the school I went to get to the national rugby finals quite often and I think when my year were in them three/four years ago we took about 300 to Twickenham, whereas in the US a similar situation would see a high school taking thousands of fans, cheerleaders, band, mascots, the whole town would go!

 

[Vienna_70]

After watching that comedy of errors on Sunday, I can't help thinking that a loan for either Tosin or Cameron would be of enormous benefit to both parties.

But whether City would be willing to allow them to spend the summer in NYC is another matter.

 

[Falastur]

After watching that comedy of errors on Sunday, I can't help thinking that a loan for either Tosin or Cameron would be of enormous benefit to both parties.

But whether City would be willing to allow them to spend the summer in NYC is another matter.

Vieira has already stated that he doesn't want to take any players on loan from Manchester this season. He didn't explain why, and it didn't particularly sound like it was anything to do with the quality of players he could bring, he just...doesn't want to. No-one's quite sure what to read into it.

Besides, as others have said, NYCFC are already two players over their international player cap and the only way to acquire more is to buy them off other teams, which MLS teams can only do with players or league-controlled designated funds called "allocation money", and there's not much of that to go around. Really not sure there's any way left to arrange it.

 

[Metalartin]

Vieira has already stated that he doesn't want to take any players on loan from Manchester this season. He didn't explain why, and it didn't particularly sound like it was anything to do with the quality of players he could bring, he just...doesn't want to. No-one's quite sure what to read into it.

Besides, as others have said, NYCFC are already two players over their international player cap and the only way to acquire more is to buy them off other teams, which MLS teams can only do with players or league-controlled designated funds called "allocation money", and there's not much of that to go around. Really not sure there's any way left to arrange it.

He's probably been listening to some of the whiny fans crying like spoilt brats when we loan players and take them back after the loan expires(how dare we). Or would a loan still affect their player caps?

 

[Falastur]

He's probably been listening to some of the whiny fans crying like spoilt brats when we loan players and take them back after the loan expires. Or would a loan still affect their player caps?

Actually, their fans really liked Facey and Angelino, but all of them understood that they might not (and indeed did not) return. Mostly they tempered their disappointment with excitement about the prospect of the next group of youngsters coming in. I didn't see a single person at the end of last season saying that it wasn't fair that they couldn't keep the players. You're peddling an out-of-date attitude - a lot of their fans are coming round to the idea of CFG ownership, or at least are accepting it rather than complaining. I haven't seen a single rant at CFG/MCFC on their forum in a long time.

And to answer your question - yes, loans still affect their caps. Loans are in fact quite harshly penalised in MLS - regardless of what the two clubs agree each other will pay of a player's salary, MLS rules require the loaning team to declare the player's full 12 month salary against the cap, which in the instance of some of our youths would quite possibly put them in DP player territory anyway. This is, I'm sure, part of the reason NYCFC (and indeed Melbourne City) have been picking up players from South America - because they come in on absolutely peanut wages and aren't hard to find a place for.

 

[Stuuuuuu]

The way it is in all sports. The only sport that has a travelling fanbase is College Football (American) and they are mainly retirees. Country is too big. The upside is that our television coverage is the best in the world. I live in the states and have better access to televised City games than folks living in Manchester.

HAHAHAHAHA! I've seen football matches with American commentators and pundits, and dear God, it's diabolical. They make Sky seem sober and informed.

 

[Banshee]

HAHAHAHAHA! I've seen football matches with American commentators and pundits, and dear God, it's diabolical. They make Sky seem sober and informed.

I'm guessing he means the amount of TV accessibility to different games in all their sports, if so then he's right. The coverage of college football and basketball is huge

You are bang on with regards to the footy commentators and pundits being diabolical. Some of the terminology they use makes me cringe.

 

[better dead than red]

Yeah my grandad lives in Tampa and he took me to the Bucs stadium tour and I was amazed to hear that the Bucs don't fill the ground but the college team do, this is is 60,000+ seater stadium! That's unthinkable in the UK, the school I went to get to the national rugby finals quite often and I think when my year were in them three/four years ago we took about 300 to Twickenham, whereas in the US a similar situation would see a high school taking thousands of fans, cheerleaders, band, mascots, the whole town would go!

College football is HUGE in certain areas of the States. I went to the University of Alabama. Their stadium, Bryant-Denny Stadium seats 101,821. It is the 8th largest stadium in the world and is full for every home Crimson Tide Game.

 

[better dead than red]

HAHAHAHAHA! I've seen football matches with American commentators and pundits, and dear God, it's diabolical. They make Sky seem sober and informed.

Banshee is correct. In the States, there is no getting a television license. You can get all Priemier League Matches if you have basic cable, FiOS, etc. If not on television then on-line. They are on a major network or its subsidiary channel. It is relatively simple.

No extra fees, no searching for snide streams, etc.

 

[Vienna_70]

College football is HUGE in certain areas of the States. I went to the University of Alabama. Their stadium, Bryant-Denny Stadium seats 101,821. It is the 8th largest stadium in the world and is full for every home Crimson Tide Game.

I've been to the States 18 times and I still find it hard to get my head around quite how big college sports - and especially football - are over there.