Newcastle Thread - 2023/24

Is it’s not written into sale of player transfers it probably will in future with a penalty clashes for the selling club, Milan should be investigated.
 
hammocity said:
Is it’s not written into sale of player transfers it probably will in future with a penalty clashes for the selling club, Milan should be investigated.
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I'd have thought there was a pretty clear timeline of these charges available to Newcastle and if there was any evidence that Milan knew ,or Tonali for that matter then Newcastle could sue Milan or the player for non disclosure.
 
Pedestrian said:
I find it bizarre that Newcastle didn’t know about this yet they stand by a player who definitely did know about this prior to signing.
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Think there might be an extra clause in players’ contracts regarding betting on football matches in the future.

If Milan knew about this, then they’re going to be paying some compensation to Newcastle.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Think there might be an extra clause in players’ contracts regarding betting on football matches in the future.

If Milan knew about this, then they’re going to be paying some compensation to Newcastle.
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All seems bit odd. I wonder if the idea was to take the player out of Italy and away from ‘temptation’ and use this in mitigation against any punishment. I find it hard to understand why the club would support him if they were not aware prior to the signing. I also think he’ll be back in Italy within 2yrs.
 
Pedestrian said:
All seems bit odd. I wonder if the idea was to take the player out of Italy and away from ‘temptation’ and use this in mitigation against any punishment. I find it hard to understand why the club would support him if they were not aware prior to the signing. I also think he’ll be back in Italy within 2yrs.
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Most Italians don’t settle in England, for whatever reason.

I don’t think it’s likely that Newcastle knew about this. They’ve got to support him as he’s a £50m asset.
 
Really weird that newcastle are treating him like a victim here. It's nobodies fault but his own and unless they knew about it and still signed him which seems unlikely, he's very clearly deceived newcastle by refusing to disclose what he's been upto. Geordies should be fuming with him for knowingly putting them in the shit.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Really weird that newcastle are treating him like a victim here. It's nobodies fault but his own and unless they knew about it and still signed him which seems unlikely, he's very clearly deceived newcastle by refusing to disclose what he's been upto. Geordies should be fuming with him for knowingly putting them in the shit.
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If players are under investigation shouldn’t they be sidelined until they are cleared?
 
SambaStyle said:
The more I watch them, the more they remind me of early Klopp Liverpool, especially at home.

Mostly a team of athletic hard workers, sprinkled with a few players of real quality.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...mier-League-2016-2017-Liverpool-Middlesbrough

A Liverpool starting 11 from 2016-2017
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Newcastle 11 from this season.

Newcastle 2-0 Burnley - Premier League 2023/2024 Live

Newcastle-Burnley live incidents, goals, cards, substitutions, lineups, statistics, formations
www.whoscored.com www.whoscored.com
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They are.

Howe's team set up not unlike Klopp's (not the current season one) - the heavy emphasis on pressing, direct sometimes almost hoofball-like attacking style, and the narrow 433 during the defensive phase.

The only slight difference is the dynamics of Howe's front three, instead of a false 9 (Firmino) and a wing forward (Salah), Howe's front 3 is more regular, with wingers (Gordon, Almiron) and an out-and-out forward (Isak, Wilson). Also, Howe morphed it slightly by having 3 at the back with Burn during the attacking phase, whilst Klopp drops Henderson/Fabinho into the flanks to cover for TAA. Besides that, tactical philosophy-wise, you can practically say Howe's Newcastle is Liverpool reincarnated.

What is interesting is Howe's Bournemouth didn't set up this way, so he must've gotten some inspiration and done his studying during his sabbatical.
 
If tonali played for city how much hatred would he be getting. I mean its all positive positive , club helping him through this difficult time, putting their arms around him to help him.

If he played for city they would be asking for an investigation into the club and a much longer ban, and certainly not playing through it like he could be at the weekend.

It stinks tbh, he's a cheat.
 
Seems odd that Howe will play him this weekend if the ban paperwork doesn't go through. Morally, it's wrong but could Newcastle also get in trouble for that? Hardly in the spirit of things, is it? If Tonalli scores the winner against wolves, and wolves go down, do they kick up a stink?

What I would say on the wider issue of gambling in professional football, is that it is highly hypocritical of ye governing bodies to keep slapping fines and abns on players for making bets, when the coffers of many a football club and footballing related organizations are stuffed full by betting companies, and us plebs can't move for adverts around the game encouraging us to gamble.

If they want to take it seriously, don't accept their money either. Clearly a player betting on games is a slightly different issue, but personally I'd happily see football turn it's back on gambling completely.
 
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Personally, I think he’s got off lightly. Ten months can easily be translated as seven months as three months is the close season. Three years is the maximum but the template is now plead gambling addiction and ten months is the default penalty. He bet on matches he played in so even pleading guilty and gambling addiction should be at least two years, a third of a reduction on the maximum.
 
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