Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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Frank fcuking Lampard?
Just why??

Decent enough manager, works well with young players, is a big enough name to attract a few big names.

He'd be fine as a first coach post-takeover. Isn't going to win anything but has already shown he can build the foundations for a better coach to come in after.
 
New top four in 2 years could be us, Newcastle, Chelsea and any one from four of United, Liverpool, Spurs or Arsenal. No wonder the cartel clubs have been trying to cement themselves in the CL without having to bother qualifying.
 
Had a peek on the Toon forums. They're pretty clueless at this stage, but you can put it down to being over-excited I suppose.

A poster said to re-sign Ivan Toney to get them going. In reply someone said about having 320bn in the bank, and Ivan Toney being the answer? Immediately demanding only Champions League level players.

Calm fucking down pal. Small steps.
 
For a fake outrage like this Newcastle takeover, the Toon Army (so the liberal left script goes) are required to respond with at least a tiny bit of moral indignation and perhaps consider taking their support elsewhere, presumably to Sunderland (though no one actually expects them to do so). When predictably the Geordies don't do anything of the sort, much contrived condemnation and disingenuous tut tutting follows in the media

For the liberal left media it is essential that the Toon army must be publicly shamed. Just like we shame the blokes down the betting office and at the race course (not to mention the Queen) over their lack of condemnation for Sheikh Maktoum, the human rights abusing oligarch who locks up his daughter, but is also the bloke who practically owns Newmarket and props up horse racing (except, of course, we don't shame them).

It's all a case of being seen to be outraged but not actually outraged, for calling for things to be done in the knowledge that nothing will be done. A time for pointing fingers at working class Newcastle United fans, in the knowledge that beIN Sports having been compensated, our government wholehearted supports the takeover, and all this liberal hand wringing is guff.

let's not forget Britain and America sent troops to Saudi Arabia 30 years ago to defend the country, more precisely defend ARAMCO, which when I first went there was called the Arabian-American Oil Company. We could've toppled the House of Saud on our way out, or at the very least brought about radical change.

But of course we didn't.

So all this hot air bullshit from the talking heads is a pile of hypocritical shite.


I don't think it's got anything to do with the liberal left.

The Mail, The Sun and The Telegraph had journalists attacking the takeover.

Those same organisations have criticised City too. It's not just the Guardian.
 
Had a peek on the Toon forums. They're pretty clueless at this stage, but you can put it down to being over-excited I suppose.

A poster said to re-sign Ivan Toney to get them going. In reply someone said about having 320bn in the bank, and Ivan Toney being the answer? Immediately demanding only Champions League level players.

Calm fucking down pal. Small steps.

I've seen Newcastle fans believing that they have the entirety of the Saudi Investment Fund at their disposal.

It also hasn't dawned on them yet that there are now rules in place limiting owner investment in the squad.
 
Had a peek on the Toon forums. They're pretty clueless at this stage, but you can put it down to being over-excited I suppose.

A poster said to re-sign Ivan Toney to get them going. In reply someone said about having 320bn in the bank, and Ivan Toney being the answer? Immediately demanding only Champions League level players.

Calm fucking down pal. Small steps.
Doesn’t help when one of the co-owners says she thinks they’ll win the league next season
 
I don't think it's got anything to do with the liberal left.

The Mail, The Sun and The Telegraph had journalists attacking the takeover.

Those same organisations have criticised City too. It's not just the Guardian.

You're right, though last count there are five opinion pieces in the Guardian about it.

For the right this faux outrage is more to do with cultural hegemony. Western values and the universal human rights we've constructed are a major component in the west's 21st Century neo-imperialism, our never ending soft power cold war, to ensure that the world is cast in our image and that western values prevail.
 
Unless they are going to fuck ffp and take it on in the courts later.....that would be fun
Its a tricky one. If that's the plan they're going to follow, I'm not sure they'll attract the right type of player. They'll only be able to get mercenaries who's heart ain't really in a relegation fight

Surely it would be better to get in 4 or 5 seasoned quality PL players who will see they comfortably stay up and then build gradually from there
 
You're right, though last count there are five opinion pieces in the Guardian about it.

For the right this faux outrage is more to do with cultural hegemony. Western values and the universal human rights we've constructed are a major component in the west's 21st Century neo-imperialism, our never ending soft power cold war, to ensure that the world is cast in our image and that western values prevail.
I call it cultural imperialism. You're only allowed to live by one set of supposedly liberal and Christian values. All others are morally abhorrent.
 
They should go for Potter. I don’t know if one of the current elite would ever go for him, but give him Newcastle’s funds and he’d get them playing really high quality football.
Incredible amount of pressure on Potter though, he would no doubt identify some good talent but if hes won nothing in the next 3 years but "plays some good football" he will get the boot.
 
Its a tricky one. If that's the plan they're going to follow, I'm not sure they'll attract the right type of player. They'll only be able to get mercenaries who's heart ain't really in a relegation fight

Surely it would be better to get in 4 or 5 seasoned quality PL players who will see they comfortably stay up and then build gradually from there
I think other clubs have been talking exactly the same thing about our club, or at least in the first 5 years or so: "mercenaries who's heart ain't really in a relegation fight".

The thing is, there's a grey area in that: some players will come purely because of money, some because they'll have a higher chance of getting some trophies (comparing to their current club), some because they will player with better players, etc. and behind all most those (good) reasons, we can't deny that money always play a big role!

And people may move because of "money" motivation, but if the club can bring good coach, good environment, good culture, etc., they people will stick and build up from that as you mentioned. So yeah, "money" is sometimes a good reason for moving too.

Therefore, I think it's no need to concern about "money" motivation, not to concern for other clubs, and not for our club too. It's always a part of our life.
 
I think other clubs have been talking exactly the same thing about our club, or at least in the first 5 years or so: "mercenaries who's heart ain't really in a relegation fight".

The thing is, there's a grey area in that: some players will come purely because of money, some because they'll have a higher chance of getting some trophies (comparing to their current club), some because they will player with better players, etc. and behind all most those (good) reasons, we can't deny that money always play a big role!

And people may move because of "money" motivation, but if the club can bring good coach, good environment, good culture, etc., they people will stick and build up from that as you mentioned. So yeah, "money" is sometimes a good reason for moving too.

Therefore, I think it's no need to concern about "money" motivation, not to concern for other clubs, and not for our club too. It's always a part of our life.
We had a few decent players before the takeover who rose to the challenge. I am not sure that any of the current Newcastle squad fit that profile. I think it will be more difficult for them than it was for us to make the leap to the elite level but I am sure that they will be able to get some decent pros to sign in January and make it to the top half of the table.
 
Hughes wasn't appointed by our current owner. Speaking of which, we've only appointed 3 managers in 13 years since the takeover
And was given a fair crack of the whip before getting the chop which while the sacking was badly handled was inevitable really.
 
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