Next Labour Leader - Miliband Resigns

[cyberblue]

I for one like our capitalist society and i don't believe I am in the minority when i say that capitalism goes way back even to when we were flogging tin before the Romans came, it's the natural order of human civilisation."Clearly thinking" that anyone wishing to bomb a tube train and a bus or fly planes into buildings is or has been brainwashed is real...they have been brainwashed by their religion, you could talk to them for a hundred years and get nothing but nonsense from them because the dogma they have been fed is ridiculous.

Just like the other rabid lefties you're not offering solutions you're just sniping at the solutions of others. You complain about our use of oil and our wicked capitalist ways, have you got any solutions that are real instead of twiddling your thumbs and going "Aw shucks what's to do?". Or are you just another yank hating member of the unwashed anti-imperialist brigade?

Well your capitalist system has caused caos in the middle east & has forced millions of men women & children to flee there homes & risk there lives to find sanctuary .The same system has seen the Police force been reduced by thousands ,same as the fire brigade .

 

[yorknomore]

Well your capitalist system has caused caos in the middle east & has forced millions of men women & children to flee there homes & risk there lives to find sanctuary .The same system has seen the Police force been reduced by thousands ,same as the fire brigade .

Should we evaluate the communist system in the same way then? The problem is human nature not a political system, the left however are self loathers without solutions. Stalin-Pol Pot "Ohh but we're not that kind of left" generation after generation the same useless rhetoric from the unwashed becomes amplified just like the way the far right hammer on about the way things used to be and they desperately want to click their little red shoes and make it revert and happen for them.

What type of leftie are you? Are you a Blair leftie or a Stalin leftie, not that there's too much difference in the two.

 

[cyberblue]

Why label me as a leftie ? alli did was to point out a couple of things about the capitalist system ,oviously i struck a nerve as the truth does hurt .just for your info i think Stalin was a Monster & Blair a hypocritical money grabbing scum bag who should be tried as a war criminial

 

[yorknomore]

Why label me as a leftie ? alli did was to point out a couple of things about the capitalist system ,oviously i struck a nerve as the truth does hurt .just for your info i think Stalin was a Monster & Blair a hypocritical money grabbing scum bag who should be tried as a war criminial

Pointing out a few things about the capitalist system without offering even the most rudimentary suggestions on how to change that system without going into full on gulag mode is a tough thing to do and as yet nobody has come up with a system to change that.If you noticed I have slated the left and right equally because really they are one in the same although they profess to have different objectives.

Some **** with a beard who "Understands" anything pro-Palestinian and has this over riding feeling of mushiness about him is a no no for the Labour party never mind the wider electorate. The last thing this country needs are crippling self serving unions and open borders fuck living in the pre Thatcher years again.

 

[BlueTangerine]

Capitalism to me, understands that falling out the right vagina means you can either get a decent life or a shit one. Socialism (in the right way) means it doesn't matter where you fall out.. I could get into Capitalism if wasn't so disgusting. I recognize a lot of people benefit from the system, but it's on the back of others who don't. Why the fuck do you think you live comfortably/more comfortably than others? - Someone, somewhere is getting fucked over and has been getting fucked over for generations as a consequence. Is this the best way? In the pursuit of advancement? Certainly not.

It might be the unfairest of fair situations, but it seems to be built on exploitation. Can't stand the word 'exploitation' it's obvious really, and this unfairness no matter how primitive the understanding, makes people realize how fucking disgusting/unfair the world is at the moment and has been for ages. Right wingers appear to have some sort of fucking weird Nepotistic-style right to comfort.. and they work from there. It's blind as fuck.. (even if it's best for the future, (which it fucking might if anyone had all the information) But if an asteroid hit tomorrow, the people in the world would die in an unfair situation, that is just a fact.

If this is the best we can really do.. then there is no argument...But it isn't the best we can do... By a looong shot. Let's get this shit existence fairer :/

 

[The perfect fumble]

I for one like our capitalist society and i don't believe I am in the minority when i say that capitalism goes way back even to when we were flogging tin before the Romans came, it's the natural order of human civilisation."Clearly thinking" that anyone wishing to bomb a tube train and a bus or fly planes into buildings is or has been brainwashed is real...they have been brainwashed by their religion, you could talk to them for a hundred years and get nothing but nonsense from them because the dogma they have been fed is ridiculous.

Just like the other rabid lefties you're not offering solutions you're just sniping at the solutions of others. You complain about our use of oil and our wicked capitalist ways, have you got any solutions that are real instead of twiddling your thumbs and going "Aw shucks what's to do?". Or are you just another yank hating member of the unwashed anti-imperialist brigade?

I grow tired of this shit, you know nothing of my politics. I've run my own Middle East export business for fuck sake! if you've done better than me then good for you, you've done very well indeed. I presently advise medium sized businesses on international trade. The dirt under my fucking finger nails knows more about capitalism and how it works than you'll ever know. I've been to every country in the Middle East many times and to Saudi over a hundred times, I lived in Muslim Northern Nigeria for three years.

If you think guys covered in woad flogging tin to each other in BC my Arse resembles neo liberal capitalism, then you should fuck off down the road to the swamp, they play free flowing football there, honest.

 

[yorknomore]

The dirt under my fucking finger nails knows more about capitalism and how it works than you'll ever know. I've been to every country in the Middle East many times and to Saudi over a hundred times, I lived in Muslim Northern Nigeria for three years.

If you think guys covered in woad flogging tin to each other in BC my Arse resembles neo liberal capitalism, then you should fuck off down the road to the swamp, they play free flowing football there, honest.

I didn't know we were talking about different degrees of capitalism and I asked you for a solution to go hand in hand with your whining, a solution isn't forthcoming then? You're not the only well travelled person on the board either so you can put a stop to that dick waving straight away it isn't going to impress anyone but your ego.

All you have done is gripe about capitalism and for an "Intelligent" man you haven't offered up a solution other than vote for the beardy weirdy because you have a feeling in your water...or are you not voting for him if he gets elected leader of the party with no chance of power? Just as a matter of interest.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

I didn't know we were talking about different degrees of capitalism and I asked you for a solution to go hand in hand with your whining, a solution isn't forthcoming then? You're not the only well travelled person on the board either so you can put a stop to that dick waving straight away it isn't going to impress anyone but your ego.

All you have done is gripe about capitalism and for an "Intelligent" man you haven't offered up a solution other than vote for the beardy weirdy because you have a feeling in your water...or are you not voting for him if he gets elected leader of the party with no chance of power? Just as a matter of interest.

The problem is its not capitalism, all the ex-public now private sector companies are still heavily subsidized by the taxpayer. Its just the few fuckers who own them reaping the profits instead of it being re-invested. People don't seem to get that. Tax avoidance is a major issue. I've read if one company, think it was Vodafone, paid the tax they actually fucking owed under the system as it was intended it would have covered the entire welfare bill for that year. Its not that people have a problem with the rich only being taxed 50% or whatever, its just most of the cunts in that bracket aren't even paying 5%. Its a fucking con, there are loopholes in these laws because the same accounting companies that make a living advising businesses to get around them wrote the fucking things.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Some **** with a beard who "Understands" anything pro-Palestinian

You don't have to agree with the actions of Hamas, but if you can't find something to understand about the situation of people living in Gaza then I don't think you understand humanity.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I didn't know we were talking about different degrees of capitalism and I asked you for a solution to go hand in hand with your whining, a solution isn't forthcoming then? You're not the only well travelled person on the board either so you can put a stop to that dick waving straight away it isn't going to impress anyone but your ego.

All you have done is gripe about capitalism and for an "Intelligent" man you haven't offered up a solution other than vote for the beardy weirdy because you have a feeling in your water...or are you not voting for him if he gets elected leader of the party with no chance of power? Just as a matter of interest.

Oh shit! I haven't got a solution to the Middle East crisis, well I'm in good company then, what I do know is we'll not bomb our way to a solution that's for sure.

As for capitalism, it's is the best mechanism for generating wealth bar none, but it's piss poor in distributing it, and increasingly piss poor at generating jobs that pay enough for a sizeable proportion of our population to live on, that's why the tax payer subsidises wages to the tune of billions, a direct subsidy to employers, we can generate the jobs but they don't add to our tax yield we have to top these wages up.

Capitalism left to it's own devices, particularly our "Anglo Saxon" version extracts too much in short term dividend and invests too little in growth, we need to look to the German model and we need a "national investment bank" we also need a "manufacturers bank" offering preferential rates to manufactures as they do in the Far East to address our over reliance on the financial sector. We need to ditch this austerity crap which just starves the economy of demand and instead embark on a massive infrastructure building programme preferably away from the South East. if we pump up the deficit who cares, we're doing that now any way to cover the social cost of failure. Money has never been so cheap, the world is awash with it looking for a safe return at record low rates, if we borrow to invest in productive capacity the economy grows and the debt shrinks. At present our debt (despite Tory boasts) has barely budged while growth in any meaningful sense for you and I is stagnant.