Next Manager after Pep

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
There aren’t many things that we could accuse our board of doing badly over the years.

How we change managers could well be at the top of the list though.

Hughes-Mancini. Hughes winning a match and waving goodbye as Mancini was already in the boardroom.

Mancini-Pellegrini. The Wigan final farce and you can stick your Pellegrini up your arse.

Pellegrini-Pep. Pellegrini’s rushed statement in January announcing he wasn’t taking the option on his extra year as manager as Pep had decided to come.

Who knows what this next change will look like.
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Sounds like you’re just determined to find negatives.

Pellegrini was a fine manager, won 3 trophies in 3 seasons, broke a ton of records, played some amazing football in that first year and made important progress in the CL. He was fairly allowed to announce his departure when he wanted. Literally who gives a fuck that he didn’t tell the PR person before? Pep had signed in October, everything important was done.

And I’m not sure what else you wanted them to do when Mancini out of nowhere started demanding they sell off half the squad he just won the title with? Fire him just before the cup final?
 
domalino said:
Sounds like you’re just determined to find negatives.

Pellegrini was a fine manager, won 3 trophies in 3 seasons, broke a ton of records, played some amazing football in that first year and made important progress in the CL. He was fairly allowed to announce his departure when he wanted. Literally who gives a fuck that he didn’t tell the PR person before? Pep had signed in October, everything important was done.
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I’ve simply highlighted the circus surrounding each of our managerial changes under ADUG.

We may or may not pick the right manager to succeed Pep. We’ve generally hired the managers we’ve needed, but in a less than ideal transition.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I’ve simply highlighted the circus surrounding each of our managerial changes under ADUG.

We may or may not pick the right manager to succeed Pep. We’ve generally hired the managers we’ve needed, but in a less than ideal transition.
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We signed the best manager of his generation and it was a complete secret to the outside world for 4 months, I wouldn’t call that a circus.
 
domalino said:
We signed the best manager of his generation and it was a complete secret to the outside world for 4 months, I wouldn’t call that a circus.
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You can call it what you wish.

Pellegrini made a rushed statement to the press as it got out and the season fizzled out because of the change over.
 
I know Pep and Txiki are instrumental in everything, but it feels like Soriano's baby and I don't think he is done with his idea of maximising the CFG model. It was his idea, and him that brought it to Mansoor/Khaldoon.

He may have an idea who he can work with (as long as their style fits ) and it maybe they come as a pair (coach and Dof). I have no idea if there are any combo's out there but it's a thought.
 
Arne Slot is in my opinion the best option, by far.

It's a young manager but with experience that other young managers lack.

Has had big success in every single year of his managerial career - he took a team that won the league once in the last 20+ years and then got 2nd in the first year and won the league in his second year. Now they are the big favorites to win it again.

Europe? Also great success. Feyenoord hadn't achieved anything tangible in Europe the past years. Arne took over and got to the Conference League final (knocked out teams such as Union Berlin, Prague and Marseille) in his first year, only just losing it Mourinho's Roma in the final.
In his second year they went up to the Europa League and got to the semi-final knocking out teams as Lazio (winning twice) and Shaktar (7-1 win at home). Again got knocked out by Mourinho's Roma after getting a red card in the second leg. After the game Mourinho got angry and shouted at him because Slot said in the press conference that he likes to watch Guardiola's City and Napoli more than any other team, including mourinho's roma!!!

Now in his third year he got Feyenoord to the Champions League and is first in the group while being with Atletico Madrid, Lazio and Celtic.

WE NEED HIM SO HARD. In summary it's a manager that loves winning and is good at it, plays a hybrid 4-3-3/3-2-4-1 just like Guardiola does with lots of possesion and attacking play and inverted fullbacks/centerback, is a big fan of Guardiola and the way City play, speaks several languages, is still young, is good both in the league and in Europe and most importantly is BALD.
 
FeyenoordCity said:
Arne Slot is in my opinion the best option, by far.

It's a young manager but with experience that other young managers lack.

Has had big success in every single year of his managerial career - he took a team that won the league once in the last 20+ years and then got 2nd in the first year and won the league in his second year. Now they are the big favorites to win it again.

Europe? Also great success. Feyenoord hadn't achieved anything tangible in Europe the past years. Arne took over and got to the Conference League final (knocked out teams such as Union Berlin, Prague and Marseille) in his first year, only just losing it Mourinho's Roma in the final.
In his second year they went up to the Europa League and got to the semi-final knocking out teams as Lazio (winning twice) and Shaktar (7-1 win at home). Again got knocked out by Mourinho's Roma after getting a red card in the second leg. After the game Mourinho got angry and shouted at him because Slot said in the press conference that he likes to watch Guardiola's City and Napoli more than any other team, including mourinho's roma!!!

Now in his third year he got Feyenoord to the Champions League and is first in the group while being with Atletico Madrid, Lazio and Celtic.

WE NEED HIM SO HARD. In summary it's a manager that loves winning and is good at it, plays a hybrid 4-3-3/3-2-4-1 just like Guardiola does with lots of possesion and attacking play and inverted fullbacks/centerback, is a big fan of Guardiola and the way City play, speaks several languages, is still young, is good both in the league and in Europe and most importantly is BALD.
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You should have led with him being bald.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Yeah, maybe. Players becoming managers is often more for sentimental reasons, rather than sound logical ones.

Fernandinho might become a superb manager, but he’s still playing, isn’t he?

I’d be all for reintegrating him into our coaching system, but I’d probably want someone more experienced to take over.
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Yes mate i agree I meant as an assistant bridging between pep and next main man
 
Holcombe bloo said:
Would be really useful to take txiki do a extra year or two after pep goes. The two leaving is a big change all at once.
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This is a big point IMO. Both are elite at what they do, and being the club we are (Khaldoon specifically) we won't settle for second-rate but it does feel like a massive change.

Unless their replacement(s) come from within (Barca replaced Pep with his assistant)...
 
Ange for me I like how he talks about the game and how he wants his teams to play.
 
I really hope that Pep & Txiki don't leave at the same time. I have this as a partial reason why the rags are as shit as they are now. The GPC was supposed to leave a year earlier but stayed out of spite to end on a win so ended up going at the same time as Gill. The downfall (might be a vid in that) had already started but not having a transition period of the new manager working with the old DoF exacerbated it I'm sure.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
There aren’t many things that we could accuse our board of doing badly over the years.

How we change managers could well be at the top of the list though.

Hughes-Mancini. Hughes winning a match and waving goodbye as Mancini was already in the boardroom.

Mancini-Pellegrini. The Wigan final farce and you can stick your Pellegrini up your arse.

Pellegrini-Pep. Pellegrini’s rushed statement in January announcing he wasn’t taking the option on his extra year as manager as Pep had decided to come.

Who knows what this next change will look like.
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Changing managers was done well by the club as the conditions and circumstance has shown.
Consider,
Hughes. No trophies
Mancini. 3 trophies
Pellegrini. 3 trophies
Pep. On his way to 20 trophies.
As far as this fan is concerned the board have done just fine.
By the way, I was in the boardroom the day Hughes was sacked and I didn't see Mancini there. If you have any photographic evidence of him there that day please post. Don't post heresay from the friends Hughes had in the media, you know the one's who still spit bile about our club nearly 15 years later.
In conclusion, the board do their business just fine in running the best team, football and management, in the world.
Come on City!
 
bluemanchester said:
Changing managers was done well by the club as the conditions and circumstance has shown.
Consider,
Hughes. No trophies
Mancini. 3 trophies
Pellegrini. 3 trophies
Pep. On his way to 20 trophies.
As far as this fan is concerned the board have done just fine.
By the way, I was in the boardroom the day Hughes was sacked and I didn't see Mancini there. If you have any photographic evidence of him there that day please post. Don't post heresay from the friends Hughes had in the media, you know the one's who still spit bile about our club nearly 15 years later.
In conclusion, the board do their business just fine in running the best team, football and management, in the world.
Come on City!
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ADUG took over Manchester City 15 years ago and they've only had to fire 1 of their managerial appointments.

Hughes was obviously not their appointment and basically needed clearing out with the old regime.
Mancini screamed and shouted his way out of a job.
Pellegrini was hired for 3 years while Pep was at Bayern and he left when he'd completed that contract.
Pep will never be fired.

Consider that United have had 8 or 9 managers over that period.
Spurs 10.
Chelsea 18.
Liverpool 5.
 
bluemanchester said:
Changing managers was done well by the club as the conditions and circumstance has shown.
Consider,
Hughes. No trophies
Mancini. 3 trophies
Pellegrini. 3 trophies
Pep. On his way to 20 trophies.
As far as this fan is concerned the board have done just fine.
By the way, I was in the boardroom the day Hughes was sacked and I didn't see Mancini there. If you have any photographic evidence of him there that day please post. Don't post heresay from the friends Hughes had in the media, you know the one's who still spit bile about our club nearly 15 years later.
In conclusion, the board do their business just fine in running the best team, football and management, in the world.
Come on City!
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Lol, okay.

None of that changes the way we replaced managers could have been better.

It’s well known that Mancini was in the stadium the day Hughes left. Maybe he wasn’t in the boardroom, but he was certainly around somewhere.

We get better managers each time, but hang the current ones out to dry.

Im not sure we will get better next time either!
 
bluemanchester said:
Changing managers was done well by the club as the conditions and circumstance has shown.
Consider,
Hughes. No trophies
Mancini. 3 trophies
Pellegrini. 3 trophies
Pep. On his way to 20 trophies.
As far as this fan is concerned the board have done just fine.
By the way, I was in the boardroom the day Hughes was sacked and I didn't see Mancini there. If you have any photographic evidence of him there that day please post. Don't post heresay from the friends Hughes had in the media, you know the one's who still spit bile about our club nearly 15 years later.
In conclusion, the board do their business just fine in running the best team, football and management, in the world.
Come on City!
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They've made the correct decisions but the manner in which they've done them left a sour taste - at the time! We don't need to worry about it with Pep, he'll leave when he wants to and hopefully he never wants to!

Hughes last game, everyone in the stadium seemed to be talking about it. I don't know if I'm remembering it correctly, but I'm pretty sure the news spread during the game and then the atmosphere was very odd and everyone was watching Hughes' body language more than the football.

The FA Cup against Wigan again it was all people were talking about before the game. A very odd atmosphere for our biggest game that season, which obviously went disastrously. They had to get rid of Mancini, he'd been challenging them all season quite publicly. But they could have done a better job of keeping it quiet so we had the best chance of winning that final. Who knows if that affected things, but it certainly was being discussed at the Green Man before it.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Lol, okay.

None of that changes the way we replaced managers could have been better.

It’s well known that Mancini was in the stadium the day Hughes left. Maybe he wasn’t in the boardroom, but he was certainly around somewhere.

We get better managers each time, but hang the current ones out to dry.

Im not sure we will get better next time either!
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Pretty sure it's since been established Mancini wasn't in the stadium.
 
KingGeorge said:
The argument being advanced that his career trajectory is different from the typical elite manager because he came from Australia I think is fair. I do think people could be right that he got overlooked because of it.

The argument that he has won everywhere he has been doesn’t make a lot of sense in my view.
Lots of guys can win in small time leagues and when they get the call up to the Premier League they face plant. Ten Hag is just the latest example. Ange has to demonstrate is different from those guys by putting together multiple top four seasons and ideally winning a minor trophy. In essence stringing together some success. If he could accomplish something like that he might be City material.
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That is fair. How he goes in the Premier League is far from settled as successful as this stage. However, I disagree about the lower league assessment. It's not like he took over big clubs in the lower leagues who were already winning clubs. He took over basket cases and turned them into winners and often with salary caps which I think are undervalued in measuring success those levels.
 
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