Gabriel
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Obviously not, but they knew what they were getting by that stage.Was it with Pep?
Obviously not, but they knew what they were getting by that stage.Was it with Pep?
Obviously not, but they knew what they were getting by that stage.
‘Insanity‘ might be stretching it, but as I’ve said I don’t think any one person is going to tick every single box.Tuchel, Klopp, Mancini etc had never worked as managers in England before. It is not a different world. It certainly doesn’t justify picking Arteta over a Hag, Nagelsmann or Enrique. It would be insanity
Managing in Germany , Spain and Italy is a considerably higher level than in Holland to be fair.Tuchel, Klopp, Mancini etc had never worked as managers in England before. It is not a different world. It certainly doesn’t justify picking Arteta over a Hag, Nagelsmann or Enrique. It would be insanity
I don’t think Arteta ticks barely any boxes. Good luck and all to him, but not here. I think it will be an interesting process‘Insanity‘ might be stretching it, but as I’ve said I don’t think any one person is going to tick every single box.
ETH has experience inside the Bayern machine and with Pep. Of course the Dutch league isn’t at the top, but Ajax is always making European noise and he is asked to be a dominating force domestically, with success. But what makes him appealing to me is noticing the constant progress in strategy and tactics on his teams, as well as technical improvements on players he manages. No choice would be risk-free, but I just think he fits usManaging in Germany , Spain and Italy is a considerably higher level than in Holland to be fair.
True, though the circumstances were not quite the same, never are of course.
According to Soriano, these were the criteria they applied when they appointed Guardiola.
- Respects the sports-management model and the role of the technical director
- Playing style
- Values to promote in the first team, with special attention to the development of young players
- Training and performance
- Proactive management of the dressing room
- Other responsibilities with, and commitments to, the club, including maintaining a conservative profile and avoiding overuse of the media
- Has experience as a player and coach at the highest level
- Supports the good governance of the club
- Knowledge of the Spanish league, the club and European competition.
Going to be difficult to find someone who meets each one, assuming they still use the same. I can see that ten Hag meets many, though his lack of experience in England would presumably be a concern. Vieira would meet many but so too would Arteta. If the Spanish-speaking management remain in place, Arteta might be a more comfortable choice. It’s not going to be easy.
That’s a little harsh. I reckon he probably meets about six of those and may meet more in time.I don’t think Arteta ticks barely any boxes. Good luck and all to him, but not here. I think it will be an interesting process
Not sure why Arteta is even in the equation to replace Pep.Man, convincing our fanbase that Arteta is the next City manager will be pretty difficult. Eventhough it is easy to why it can be a good idea. Arteta clearly have seen/know inside and out our Club management.
Pep clearly rated him very highly as manager despite his form on Arsenal, many thought Pep statement is sarcasm but he genuinely think that Arteta is a really good manager have been working with him closely for years. Pep will not easily give him that kind of compliment if he doesn't think so. His standards is very high afterall.
It is not easy to judge Arteta true capability because Arsenal as club is such a mess, ranging from the top to very bottom there so many of that club problem to exist and Arteta as capable he is, can't do it alone yet he will the first figure to blame for Arsenal wrong doing despite not all of that club problem is from his. Trying to implement the style and instill the culture he have seen in City to Arsenal will be very difficult job and it will taken him for years to do it. Not an easy job and heck even Pep himself will also find it is very difficult to do.
Thing is Manager appointment is all about whether the manager in question is a match for the club itself. CV and experience is good but it will not matter if the manager philosophy and playstyle is very different compared to ours, for example Prime Mourinho despite his impressive CV and experience after managing treble Inter season will not match our club philosopy and style at all.
If CV and experience is all that matter, Pep and Zidane will not getting the job in their first big team at all and you know how it turn out (Sextuple and Three peat CL respectively).
CV is good just for assurance for fanbase that the manager itself is good enough to lead the club to the very top but not the major factor of why that manager must get appointment as a manager.