Next Rail Strikes Announced.

They don’t deserve it. Staff are often rude, unhelpful… Trains are regularly late and cancelled. The service is awful yet they demand more?

The only person who will fund higher wages are the passengers and fares are already too high.

Crack jokes all you want. It proves that your views are one.

Sometimes as a customer/passenger you can get the feeling that you're unwelcome even go as far as being an irritant.

If you want people to support your strike then stop being cunts on days you are not on strike.
 
And the bleeding tax payer. It’s harder to drive a bus than a train for about 1/2 the money.
You don’t even need to steer the bleeding thing. Running the trains on my model railway requires more concentration.
The only reason they already get vastly inflated wages is because they can hold the Country to ransom.
In the real world if the jobs no longer needed you are moved on , not with this lot.
You are a member of the Gammerati and I also claim my £5.
 
Also, if I decide to disable the safety systems on my train and ram it at 125 mph headlong into an oncoming train, I can wipe out well over 2,000 people.

How many people on board a full bus? 70?

That's a lot of responsibility.
Fortunately we don’t base someone’s pay in the UK on a premium of how many people they could kill
 
If you know the cost and the length of time it takes to train up a bus driver and a train driver from scratch, you’ll know why they get paid twice as much.
If it was that difficult a job it would be graduate entry only.
 
Do you have to have a degree to become a fighter pilot?
I think you will find the vast majority of them do. And excellent A levels and GCSE’s.
Only about 1 in 25 applicants are successful unlike train drivers.
And.. the pay is less than a train drivers so back to the drawing board with your argument Mr K.
 
I think you will find the vast majority of them do. And excellent A levels and GCSE’s.
Only about 1 in 25 applicants are successful unlike train drivers.
And.. the pay is less than a train drivers so back to the drawing board with your argument Mr K.
So why doesn't everyone become a train driver as the pay is exorbitant and it's so f*king easy to do? Serious question.
 
So why doesn't everyone become a train driver as the pay is exorbitant and it's so f*king easy to do? Serious question.
If you are a train driver you will know there are many many applicants for each vacancy reflecting the high rate of pay and good working conditions.
The qualifications needed for the job are not particularly difficult.
A few O levels at basic pass grades and compared with other jobs on that level of money, a very short period of training, most of it on the job.
You only need to sit behind the cab of a Blackpool tram to see how easy the job is to master.
If we can automate car driving, trains will not be far behind.
Then any numpty can sit in a cab and press an override button for about a 1/4 of the money should things go wrong.
 
It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re going on strike for more money because they know how valuable they are. As an above poster says, new technology means they can be less choosy. If we didn’t have Brexit in place then half of Eastern Europe would gladly do it.
 
If you are a train driver you will know there are many many applicants for each vacancy reflecting the high rate of pay and good working conditions.
The qualifications needed for the job are not particularly difficult.
A few O levels at basic pass grades and compared with other jobs on that level of money, a very short period of training, most of it on the job.
You only need to sit behind the cab of a Blackpool tram to see how easy the job is to master.Then any numpty can sit in a cab and press an override button for about a 1/4 of the money should things go wrong.
If you are a train driver you will know there are many many applicants for each vacancy reflecting the high rate of pay and good working conditions. Yes, I am and there are many applicants; a high percentage of whom do not get through the first stage.
The qualifications needed for the job are not particularly difficult. Agreed, but a lot still fail.

A few O levels at basic pass grades and compared with other jobs on that level of money, a very short period of training, most of it on the job. Most applicants with O levels are now a bit too old to apply, but I get your point. Training is at least three months of classroom then a minimum 225 hours in cab practical handling, if they passed their classroom/theory tests.
You only need to sit behind the cab of a Blackpool tram to see how easy the job is to master. I have never driven a Blackpool tram but an professional driver can make a job look easy. I drive Mainline Trains at speeds up to125 mph. And I make it look easy too.
If we can automate car driving, trains will not be far behind. I don't see many driver-less cars driving about.

Then any numpty can sit in a cab and press an override button for about a 1/4 of the money should things go wrong. If you are happy with poorly-paid numpties being responsible for when the automated systems fail, god help you.
 

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