NFL 2014

[Blueband Brother]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

its a different matter in october when a manager might have lost interest

Can trades go through without the consent of both parties? thus justifying the need to vote

Also is there are problem with the trade? I though it was up to the participants to decide what to do with their team and I don't see why trading should be a negative thing or should inspire very unhealthy and worrying cynicism regardless of how unconventional it is.

both need to agree and no nothing wrong with trades - anyone questioning one can vote against it - thaf's the safety mechanism

That is the issue I am talking about. Why would someone question a trade if it is the decision of the managers involved?. It does not seem healthy and in many ways spoils the spirit of the whole experience. I understand if the trade is unilateral i.e a manager decides to trade with another manager that has lost interest, as you said, and is no longer actively involved in the league. Then it is justified to veto or vote. But if two parties agree on a trade, I don't see why there is any need for negative emotions.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

I didn't vote but if somebody proposes a trade and the other person accepts it really should have nothing to do with anybody else anyways imo.

Of course you may say it could be a dual username etc etc but if they then feel the need to cheat to win a daft online friendly league then shame on them either way.

It's just an opinion. People can do what they like regardless of how utterly crazy I think it is

 

[pudge]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

Can trades go through without the consent of both parties? thus justifying the need to vote

Also is there are problem with the trade? I though it was up to the participants to decide what to do with their team and I don't see why trading should be a negative thing or should inspire very unhealthy and worrying cynicism regardless of how unconventional it is.

both need to agree and no nothing wrong with trades - anyone questioning one can vote against it - thaf's the safety mechanism

That is the issue I am talking about. Why would someone question a trade if it is the decision of the managers involved?. It does not seem healthy and in many ways spoils the spirit of the whole experience. I understand if the trade is unilateral i.e a manager decides to trade with another manager that has lost interest, as you said, and is no longer actively involved in the league. Then it is justified to veto or vote. But if two parties agree on a trade, I don't see why there is any need for negative emotions.

I'm up against the team you gave Ray Rice to, the team that also had Peyton Manning, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush and Vernon Davis prior to that impulse trade.

Am I not allowed "negative emotions"?

Much like those who didn't like my trade earlier, because some might feel it's rather unfair and unbalanced. I know at least one manager voted against my trade and I understand why as it gave the other manager the top 2 running backs. If it was voted down I would've understood and wouldn't have pretended to be holier than thou.

I missed the draft so I missed out on my Round 1 pick and attempted to trade for him, you made your trade based on one game.

 

[Blueband Brother]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

both need to agree and no nothing wrong with trades - anyone questioning one can vote against it - thaf's the safety mechanism

That is the issue I am talking about. Why would someone question a trade if it is the decision of the managers involved?. It does not seem healthy and in many ways spoils the spirit of the whole experience. I understand if the trade is unilateral i.e a manager decides to trade with another manager that has lost interest, as you said, and is no longer actively involved in the league. Then it is justified to veto or vote. But if two parties agree on a trade, I don't see why there is any need for negative emotions.

I'm up against the team you gave Ray Rice to, the team that also had Peyton Manning, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush and Vernon Davis prior to that impulse trade.

Am I not allowed "negative emotions"?

Much like those who didn't like my trade earlier, because some might feel it's rather unfair and unbalanced. I know at least one manager voted against my trade and I understand why as it gave the other manager the top 2 running backs. If it was voted down I would've understood and wouldn't have pretended to be holier than thou.

I missed the draft so I missed out on my Round 1 pick and attempted to trade for him, you made your trade based on one game.

I made my trade for a number of reasons with the primary goal of building and improving my team and is none of your business what I do with my team. But besides that, it was my decision and I don't see why I should be prevented to trade who I want to improve my team or at least muster the squad I want. The trading is part of the whole experience and people should understand that.

Concerning the unfair and unbalanced issue, that is also based on opinion. I decided to trade Ray Rice because I felt it was a good decision for me but people that may disagree with my decision and call it impulsive may also, if they want, feel that my team is compromised because of the trade. But I do not think it is. I am very content with the deal and happy with the player I got in return.

The other person feels his team has improved as a result of the trade, which is why he agreed to the deal in the first place and fair play to him.

You can have negative emotions in terms of being aggrieved that another person have acquired a good player and that once again is part of the whole experience and fun. But you miss the point entirely if it becomes a cause for cynicism and complaint.

 

[pudge]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

Is it "missing the point" and "part of the fun" if a manager is already through to the play-offs and trades his best players to a mate to help him advance? Or if someone new to the sport and doesn't know the players that well.

Because that's why there's a default safety net, set by NFL.com.

I'm afraid you miss the point of it entirely if you continue to ignore that possibility and reasoning. Shocker...

 

[Blueband Brother]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

Is it "missing the point" and "part of the fun" if a manager is already through to the play-offs and trades his best players to a mate to help him advance? Or if someone new to the sport and doesn't know the players that well.

Because that's why there's a default safety net, set by NFL.com.

I'm afraid you miss the point of it entirely if you continue to ignore that possibility and reasoning. Shocker...

Lol, too much negative emotions, its sad.

As I said, It is none of your business who I trade as it is my decision as to how to improve my team going forward. Your first paragraph is not relevant to this situation and you should know that.

You are the one that misses the point once again.

 

[pudge]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

Is it "missing the point" and "part of the fun" if a manager is already through to the play-offs and trades his best players to a mate to help him advance? Or if someone new to the sport and doesn't know the players that well.

Because that's why there's a default safety net, set by NFL.com.

I'm afraid you miss the point of it entirely if you continue to ignore that possibility and reasoning. Shocker...

Lol, too much negative emotions, its sad.

As I said, It is none of your business who I trade as it is my decision as to how to improve my team going forward. Your first paragraph is not relevant to this situation and you should know that.

You are the one that misses the point once again.

I'm not talking about your trade, but why there is the default of a vote in general.

Not hard to see nor understand.

Again, your ignorance and arrogance blinds you.

 

[Blueband Brother]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

Is it "missing the point" and "part of the fun" if a manager is already through to the play-offs and trades his best players to a mate to help him advance? Or if someone new to the sport and doesn't know the players that well.

Because that's why there's a default safety net, set by NFL.com.

I'm afraid you miss the point of it entirely if you continue to ignore that possibility and reasoning. Shocker...

Lol, too much negative emotions, its sad.

As I said, It is none of your business who I trade as it is my decision as to how to improve my team going forward. Your first paragraph is not relevant to this situation and you should know that.

You are the one that misses the point once again.

I'm not talking about your trade, but why there is the default of a vote in general.

Not hard to see nor understand.

Again, your ignorance and arrogance blinds you.

Projecting as usual.

The whole trigger to this discussion is the fact that I made a trade that you clearly deem to be unfair and thus should be voted against. I am talking about the trade but in you sad attempt to display more of that arrogance, sarcasm and negativity, you have missed the point I was making.

I will say it again, the trade I made was my decision and it should not trigger such reaction. From you, it is understandable and expected because you have shown yourself a number of times. I wanted a player and I negotiated to get the player and I am happy with the result.

 

[pudge]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

Lol, too much negative emotions, its sad.

As I said, It is none of your business who I trade as it is my decision as to how to improve my team going forward. Your first paragraph is not relevant to this situation and you should know that.

You are the one that misses the point once again.

I'm not talking about your trade, but why there is the default of a vote in general.

Not hard to see nor understand.

Again, your ignorance and arrogance blinds you.

Projecting as usual.

The whole trigger to this discussion is the fact that I made a trade that you clearly deem to be unfair and thus should be voted against. I am talking about the trade but in you sad attempt to display more of that arrogance, sarcasm and negativity, you have missed the point I was making.

I will say it again, the trade I made was my decision and it should not trigger such reaction. From you, it is understandable and expected because you have shown yourself a number of times. I wanted a player and I negotiated to get the player and I am happy with the result.

You asked why people would care or should vote against an agreed trade.

I answered, using the fact I was playing one of the teams involved in your trade as an example.

I then explained why there is a vote for or against trades, something you also questioned.

YOU were the first to respond with arrogance, insults and condescension. Like you would say, I'm merely replying how your posts and attitude the way they deserve to be.

I'm not projecting, I'm answering your questions. You are very condescending throughout the forum so it's hard to get through to you without being brash. You'll reply to this with the same demeanour you have projected before no doubt, but if you're not willing to read nor listen to honest posts that answer and engage your questions then just ignore my posts. Simple, starting now would be good.

 

[Blueband Brother]

Re: Bluemoon NFL Fantasy Draft Sunday Sept 1st 8pm

I'm not talking about your trade, but why there is the default of a vote in general.

Not hard to see nor understand.

Again, your ignorance and arrogance blinds you.

Projecting as usual.

The whole trigger to this discussion is the fact that I made a trade that you clearly deem to be unfair and thus should be voted against. I am talking about the trade but in you sad attempt to display more of that arrogance, sarcasm and negativity, you have missed the point I was making.

I will say it again, the trade I made was my decision and it should not trigger such reaction. From you, it is understandable and expected because you have shown yourself a number of times. I wanted a player and I negotiated to get the player and I am happy with the result.

You asked why people would care or should vote against an agreed trade.

I answered, using the fact I was playing one of the teams involved in your trade as an example.

I then explained why there is a vote for or against trades, something you also questioned.

YOU were the first to respond with arrogance, insults and condescension. Like you would say, I'm merely replying how your posts and attitude the way they deserve to be.

I'm not projecting, I'm answering your questions. You are very condescending throughout the forum so it's hard to get through to you without being brash. You'll reply to this with the same demeanour you have projected before no doubt, but if you're not willing to read nor listen to honest posts that answer and engage your questions then just ignore my posts. Simple, starting now would be good.

You are still projecting and you are the one being arrogant and condescending with insinuations about my lack of understanding or ignorance and this is something or the angle you have decided to follow for a while now. I will keep highlighting this your unfortunate tendency and hope that you will finally get it one of these days and change.

I never take this tone on anyone but I have decided to make an exception to your case because you do have an arrogant and sarcastic disposition and you are very disrespectful in your approach to discussions. Personally, as I have suggested, I would prefer not to engage in discussions with you whatsoever.

I have made my point clear concerning this issue but I will say it again, It was my decision to make the trade, I wanted a player, negotiated a deal for the player and I am very content with it and if the other player agrees with the deal, then that should be it. It is not your business what I do with my fantasy team.