NHS Crisis

[Cheesy]

Someone has slipped through the mental healthcare safety net !!

Jeremy Corbyn?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Probably the most disgraceful headline I've ever seen from an English newspaper.

The public are now under attack from the media and government.

Jeremy Hut - soz **** - has the answer. Just re-categorise what 4 hours means. In other news Theresa May re-launches Camerons the Big Society as the Caring Society and Armando Ianucci tells us why as author of The Thick of It he is suing the Government for copyright infringement

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

First, a health service is a privilege, not a right. You have a right to exist and a right to own possessions and that's pretty much it. What on earth makes you think that you have a RIGHT to demand that someone else should care for you?

Because we live in a so-called civilised, advanced society. What an absolutely stupid fucking post.

 

[stony]

Because we live in a so-called civilised, advanced society. What an absolutely stupid fucking post.

You're out of order there PB. It wasn't stupid, just completely fucking heartless and devoid of compassion for fellow humans.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I started writing a response to the above, but it was too lengthy for this forum, so I'll just say that I fundamentally disagree with you on many, many levels.

But I will say two things:

First, a health service is a privilege, not a right. You have a right to exist and a right to own possessions and that's pretty much it. What on earth makes you think that you have a RIGHT to demand that someone else should care for you? What bizarre and utterly wrong thinking. I am not saying that a free health service is a bad thing, but a right, it most definitely is not.

Second, I don't have private health actually. I want the best possible treatment by the NHS and that means I want them to be as efficient and effective as possible and the ludicrous levels of inefficiency and waste endemic in the system, benefits no-one.

Far from it mate - me - and I expect 99% of people on here and not far off that in the UK BOUGHT that right. Its called tax and NI. Successive governments have promised us all the NHS is safe in their hands. If they can't fund it properly they should tell us - preferably in a manifesto - not appoint a fuck wit like Hunt to deny it and dance on a pin head over what is and isn't 4 hours in A&E. I'd bet the vast majority vote one way or another based on promises on the NHS ( cough..... what referendum bus ...cough ) rather than in support of defence spending or HS fuckin 2 .

Those of us old enough on here remember the run down of BR through lack of investment followed by sell off followed by huge increases to private franchises in subsides to run a poorer fragmented service and see the echoes in the NHS. Its worth noting the biggest beneficiaries are now European NATIONALISED railways so quite soon we will be seeing our NHS services free at the point of need in Germany or France as they mop up our taxpayers subsidies to the NHS. Vote leave eh? Ha ha ha .

 

[bluethrunthru]

You're out of order there PB. It wasn't stupid, just completely fucking heartless and devoid of compassion for fellow humans.

wrong really. It just failed to take into account the financial commitment made by the UK tax payer. None of us expect the right.............. we've fuckin paid for it !!

 

[bluethrunthru]

Probably the most disgraceful headline I've ever seen from an English newspaper.

The public are now under attack from the media and government.

Stupid fucking Mail. Can't they see its immigrants fault? Also what is this doing to house prices FFS their readers need to know !!!!??? Suggest you buy the Express to get Diana's views...........

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

You're out of order there PB. It wasn't stupid, just completely fucking heartless and devoid of compassion for fellow humans.

Something tells me chippy's a Tory voter. Just a gut feeling.

 

[stony]

Something tells me chippy's a Tory voter. Just a gut feeling.

I've no problem with Tory voters, I've got friends who are Tories. They can't understand why I am a socialist in the same way that I can't understand why any working class man would vote Tory. A lack of empathy, compassion and basic human decency is something I cannot understand. In this day and age, basic healthcare should be a fundamental right and not a privilege. Anyone who thinks it's a privilege is a ****.
It won't be long before this country is the same as America, with the right wing and the ultra right wing in opposition. We're probably there now tbh, because the war criminal Tony Blair certainly wasn't a socialist.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Because we live in a so-called civilised, advanced society. What an absolutely stupid fucking post.

No, that is. Especially from a mod. If you don't agree, fine, but cut out the shitty attitude.