Nick Griffin & the BNP

[Bluesince1979]

not sure if banning a political party is your opinion or your just throwing it in to discuss, but , no offence meant, its a ridiculous and dangerous idea. for centuries upon centuries we have been known as a tolerant and democratic country. to start criminalising and banning people for there opinions is fuckin wrong!
whether you agree with the bnp's ideas or not they ARE a legitimate party who SHOULD have as much air time as, say, the communist party.

i just dont agree full stop with this whole 'thought police' thing. if i decide i dont like people from norway, why is it wrong to express my feelings?as long as i dont go roun beating norwegians up what offence am i commiting?
surely thats what free speach and democracy id all about?

It is not my opinion just a topic that comes up now & again .My view is to ban nothing.everyone is old enough & big enough to think for themselves[/quote]

fair do's, was just wandering if it was your opinion or not. a lot of people on here get absolutely lambasted for there opinions on here

 

[SWP's back]

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Is it Wright-Phillips?

it will be when he bangs in the winner against the rags.

'I would fuckin love it, love it'

So would I

 

[eagle]

So what if they said this is a white country, and non-white people should be forcibly removed? Millions of people living in fear because of a bunch of people whose sanity is deeply questionable? If free speech costs lives, then it ain't worth it.

quite agree with you but if they got into power it wouldnt be a bunch of people would it? it would be a majority of people and ou have to respect that, or leave the country, i'd do the latter. if the majority of people voted them in they that has to be respected, doesnt it? as i say, the non beleivers would leave and those happy with the situation would stay.

wouldnt worry anyway, they'll never get in power.

as an aside, immigration IS an issue and i do actually think its healthy that one party does raise its concerns and brings it to the for front, other wise every other party would be quite happy to ignore it as though the problem wasnt there.

So on that basis when the Nazis came to power, having been voted in by the majority of Germans, the holocaust or " Shoah" they committed was O.K? It must have been according to your logic and lets not have the excuse that the germans didn't know it was happening.

There have times in our history when there has been the dictatorship of the majority over the minority i.e. the numerous pograms against Jews, and attacks on Catholics when the religion of the monarchy has changed. I would suggest this is where the inalienable rights of citizens are relevant and in theory the Bill of Rights protects us; and before anyone says I am getting mixed up with the US system I'm sure we have something similar or at least the "magna carter" or the checks & balances of the Executive, legislature and judiciary.

These are the symbols of real Englishness and not the simple hijacking of the union jack often followed by the bnp.

 

[bluemanc]

quite agree with you but if they got into power it wouldnt be a bunch of people would it? it would be a majority of people and ou have to respect that, or leave the country, i'd do the latter. if the majority of people voted them in they that has to be respected, doesnt it? as i say, the non beleivers would leave and those happy with the situation would stay.

wouldnt worry anyway, they'll never get in power.

as an aside, immigration IS an issue and i do actually think its healthy that one party does raise its concerns and brings it to the for front, other wise every other party would be quite happy to ignore it as though the problem wasnt there.

So on that basis when the Nazis came to power, having been voted in by the majority of Germans, the holocaust or " Shoah" they committed was O.K? It must have been according to your logic and lets not have the excuse that the germans didn't know it was happening.

There have times in our history when there has been the dictatorship of the majority over the minority i.e. the numerous programs against Jews, and attacks on Catholics when the religion of the monarchy has changed. I would suggest this is where the inalienable rights of citizens are relevant and in theory the Bill of Rights protects us; and before anyone says I am getting mixed up with the US system I'm sure we have something similar or at least the "magna carter" or the checks & balances of the Executive, legislature and judiciary.

In Germany's case the minority caused the atrocities,they actually went that one step further to gain power as a majority.The Night of the Long Knives as good as eradicated any opposition.
Depending on what you believe is true, many leaders have been assasinated for the reason that they weren't as hardline as a minority wanted them to be.

 

[DTeacher]

If they say anything that incites racism, they will have committed a crime.

So let them speak, then arrest them.

Erm...........


Nick Griffin (BNP Leader) :

‘’All black people will be repatriated – even if they were born here.’’

‘’Without the white race, nothing matters (other right wing parties) believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create ‘Black Britons’ , while we affirm that NON-WHITES HAVE NO PLACE HERE AT ALL AND WILL NOT REST UNTIL EVERY LAST ONE HAS LEFT OUR LAND.’’

‘’BNP Activists and writers should never refer to ‘Black Britons’ or ‘Asian Britons’ etc, for the simple reason that such people do not exist.’’

‘’Yes, Adolf went a bit too far…..it just creates a bad image.’’

‘’At 13, I read ‘Mein Kampf,’ making notes in the margins….I remember thinking, are the Jews really that bad? The chapter I most enjoyed was the one on propaganda and organisation – there are some really useful ideas there.’’

‘’I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that 6 million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lamp shades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie and latter witch-hysteria.’’

‘’The TV footage of dozens of ‘gay’ demonstrators flaunting their perversions in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive.’’

‘’Meanwhile, the indigenous side in the low-to-medium level civil war brewing in this country is getting it’s training….It’s all going to get very messy.’’

‘’…When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, NOT of rational debate.’’

‘’Voluntary repatriation. Isn’t that easier to sell than compulsory repatriation for all?’’


Andrew Brons (BNP)
MEP Yorkshire & Humber

*Kelly Holmes* is only partially from this country, even if she is an integrated member of the community.
(Dame Kelly Holmes, who won 2 gold medals in 2004 Olympics, was born in Kent in 1970).


Nicholas Eriksen (BNP)

Rape is simply sex.

Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible ordeal. To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime, is like suggesting that force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence.

A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.


Mark Collett BNP) :

‘’Churchill was a fucking c**t who led us into a pointless war with other whites (the Nazis) standing up for their race.’’

‘’ There’s not a European country the Jews haven’t been thrown out of. When it happens that many times, it’s not just persecution. THERE’S NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE.’’

‘’Hitler will live forever; and maybe I will’’

‘’(Aids is) A friendly disease because blacks, drug users and gays have it’’

‘’The Royals have betrayed their people. When we’re in power, they’ll be wiped out and we’ll get some Germans to rule properly.’’


Etc Etc Etc....

 

[Skashion]

So on that basis when the Nazis came to power, having been voted in by the majority of Germans, the holocaust or " Shoah" they committed was O.K? It must have been according to your logic and lets not have the excuse that the germans didn't know it was happening.

There have times in our history when there has been the dictatorship of the majority over the minority i.e. the numerous programs against Jews, and attacks on Catholics when the religion of the monarchy has changed. I would suggest this is where the inalienable rights of citizens are relevant and in theory the Bill of Rights protects us; and before anyone says I am getting mixed up with the US system I'm sure we have something similar or at least the "magna carter" or the checks & balances of the Executive, legislature and judiciary.

In Germany's case the minority caused the atrocities,they actually went that one step further to gain power as a majority.The Night of the Long Knives as good as eradicated any opposition.
Depending on what you believe is true, many leaders have been assasinated for the reason that they weren't as hardline as a minority wanted them to be.

In which free-and-fair election did the Nazis win a majority?

 

[BluePurgatory]

Do you think that he should be banned from holding press conferences ? & what would make anyone want to vote for Him or the BNP ?

They did that with the IRA and Sinne Fein. So would you rather have bombs goinf off instead. I find Brown and his cronies offensive but I dont think he shold be banned. Its called freedom of speech.

 

[bluemanc]

In Germany's case the minority caused the atrocities,they actually went that one step further to gain power as a majority.The Night of the Long Knives as good as eradicated any opposition.
Depending on what you believe is true, many leaders have been assasinated for the reason that they weren't as hardline as a minority wanted them to be.

In which free-and-fair election did the Nazis win a majority?

Since when has any election been fair ???in the past ours have had boundrys changed by the powers that be to win votes,the Iran & Afganistan elections are only the latest in a long line of the extremist minority influencing the majority.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Even aside from everything else if somebody is f***ing stupid enough to vote for the BNP they are contravening their moral obligation as a voter. Because they would be voting for a party who essentially campaigns on a single issue - immigration.


Incorrect......they are going to campaign on

Troops out of Afghanistan now and nothing else

this will place some people in a difficult position if they feel that the BNP are the only party who will bring the troops home.

I think the ploy of campaining on one major issue to secure votes was also used by the NAZI Party in their rise to power

 

[Meddler]

No because they are still a legitimate political party.

Do you want these numpties to filter into mainstream politics? No, so give them their outlet. They are never going to mean shit in this country so don't worry too much about it.