Nine years and four months for 3 lives

I don’t think that him killing three vs one should make much difference to the overall sentence, his criminality was the same.

Whether the sentencing guidelines for death by dangerous driving are too lenient, personally I err on probably not but I get why some would want to see them be longer.

I err on not personally though because of cases like this. His actions have killed three of his friends, left him with life changing injuries and him being sentenced to over nine years in prison. He’s going to subsequently live with both his injuries and the guilt of what he’s done for the rest of his life. I’m not sure what the purpose of having an extended sentence to the one he got would serve. Prison is there as a deterrent to others, a punishment to the individual and to protect society from potential subsequent actions.

Personally I’m comfortable with the level of deterrent the sentence provides, the punishment he personally is going to receive at the expense of us as taxpayers vs the punishment he’s going to live with subsequently and given the situation with this particular one, the risk of reoffending, which I think is low to none.

3 lives ended, 1 life ruined. It’s tragic and I feel for all the parents involved in particular.
We'll have to agree to disagree. He's ruined three families' lives, and to be potentially out in six years is staggering. Anyeay; I'm not going to argue all night with you about it. I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree. He's ruined three families' lives, and to be potentially out in six years is staggering. Anyeay; I'm not going to argue all night with you about it. I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine.

Didn’t even think we were arguing! No problem, like I said, I can see why some would want to see it longer.
 
Lots of lives will never be the same again and I would not wish that on anyone, especially this time of year is more horrendous.
 
They all seemed to be enjoying themselves so I wouldn't blame it just on him.
Agree here.
I’d like to think if I got in a car and the driver was doing laughing gas, I’d ask him to pull over and I’d get out. Of course I’m saying that as a FOC rather than a teen out with my mates.
But the 3 who died knew what was going on, most likely didn’t have seat belts on and were having a good time.
Sympathies for the families, of course.
 
Agree here.
I’d like to think if I got in a car and the driver was doing laughing gas, I’d ask him to pull over and I’d get out. Of course I’m saying that as a FOC rather than a teen out with my mates.
But the 3 who died knew what was going on, most likely didn’t have seat belts on and were having a good time.
Sympathies for the families, of course.
A report of the incident said only one of the three was wearing a seat belt. Disabling seat belt warning alarms should be an offence.
 
They all seemed to be enjoying themselves so I wouldn't blame it just on him.

I think this has to be taken into account. Yes, the driver has ultimate responsibility for being in control of the vehicle, but judging from the video, they all appear to be 'enjoying' themselves, possibly goading the driver to be more aggressive etc, and they can all say no to doing drugs and getting in cars when the driver is not in a fit state.

I suppose it's easy to say that you think a ~10 year sentence is enough when your own child is not involved, but the kid has already ruined his life, along with many others, not sure a 20+ sentence is going to help rehabilitate him.

It's a tragic outcome, and fortunately no one else outside of the car was injured or killed.
 
A report of the incident said only one of the three was wearing a seat belt. Disabling seat belt warning alarms should be an offence.
If they were determined not to wear seat belts, I'm not sure the warning alarm would convince them to.

I wear a seat belt all the time, if only to shut the bloody annoying "beep beep beep" up!
 

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