jimmygrimblesboots
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it worked well against the dippers then ?
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it worked well against the dippers then ?
Millwallawayveteran1988
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it worked well against the dippers then ?
Yeah, that defeat was nothing at all to do with a defence that included Demichellis, Mangala and Kolorov and an off form Sagna. We could have had Messi, Ronaldo and the three best midfielders in the world playing for us that day and we still would have lost.
Barry Conlons wig
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In regards opposition using a high press, is it not more beneficial to have your technically more proficient players to counter this? The way to beat the press is by passing your way out of it, no?
Fwiw I don't think we look all that more solid defensively when Yaya is not on the pitch but I do think we lose a certain amount of control in general when he isn't.
what exactly are you
whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttNice to see some common sense on this thread today.
The problem that often arises on forums is that views get polarised; even when people do not necessarily have extreme views. I try to take the approach of focussing on the positive aspects of individuals rather than the negative, which doesn't mean I never criticise, but one of the reasons I spend more time "defending" Yaya and Pellegrini is that there more than enough people queuing up to criticise. In the case of Yaya, I confess that I find it odd that there has been a seemingly constant need since he arrived for some to focus on the weaknesses of a player who is one of the most complete that I have personally watched and who I am sure, in the Opta sense, has been City's most influential since he joined the club.
I love my stats, I can't help it (my job is all about numbers FFS), but my eyes told me on Saturday that there was a Yaya sized hole in our midfield in terms of controlling the ball and it is usually the case in his absence. It didn't matter on Saturday against Villa but it will against more adept opposition. I also felt on Saturday that despite all the running about City's midfield did, they didn't do a particularly good job of regaining possession and Villa actually did a better job of that. We didn't need Yaya on Saturday and he did need resting but if he had been in front of two of the guys who did play in midfield, I reckon we would have had greater control of the game. That's hypothetical but was is not is the need to be able to play consistently and convincingly without Yaya starting and we simply do not yet have enough evidence to show that we can. Maybe Dinho or Silva or Nasri can yet step to the plate to be the hub of the side; maybe a new approach will have to be the way forward.
Burtonblue
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He will be off to Inter this summer with our blessing.
Definitely will not fit into Peps style of play.
Will help reduce our wage bill although I suspect we will end up subsidising his move as no way can Inter afford his wages...
Definitely will not fit into Peps style of play.
Will help reduce our wage bill although I suspect we will end up subsidising his move as no way can Inter afford his wages...
jimmygrimblesboots
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Yeah, that defeat was nothing at all to do with a defence that included Demichellis, Mangala and Kolorov and an off form Sagna. We could have had Messi, Ronaldo and the three best midfielders in the world playing for us that day and we still would have lost.
we couldnt handle the high press or energy of the dippers , (who admittedly always treat a fixture against us , as their cup final) , it obviously wasnt all yaya's fault , but our ball retention in midfield was awful and yaya's inability to "track back" was alarming, which in turn put pressure on , an out of sorts the defence. The yaya subject is really incidental now , because his odious agent has already slagged Pep in the press ,and will be looking for his next payday. Would still like to see yaya leave the club on a high with a couple of winners medals , the least he deserves for his contribution to our recent success .
We don't.What we often gain in more intensity on the defending end, is lost because we control the ball less. So in the end it's a Zero gain. Sure we make a few more tackles, but we end up giving up as many chances cause we simply don't control the ball as well. The stats back it up. Opposition's chances created doesn't change whether we play Yaya or not.In regards opposition using a high press, is it not more beneficial to have your technically more proficient players to counter this? The way to beat the press is by passing your way out of it, no?
Fwiw I don't think we look all that more solid defensively when Yaya is not on the pitch but I do think we lose a certain amount of control in general when he isn't.
Well, perhaps you should have asked!Please feel free to explain because I reckon 95% of us here won't have a clue what "ball recoveries" mean if it doesn't include interceptions and tackles. Unless its picking up the ball after someone else has made a tackle I'm out of ideas.
you should all listen to Etoo and what he said about Guardiola. You will have an idea about who guardiola is, and why Yaya wont be here next year.
unfortunately the interview is in french, and i could not find an english translation.
unfortunately the interview is in french, and i could not find an english translation.