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simon23 said:
so backs up my pint even more...he is an inside forward able to play across the front 3.......nolito doesn't and no one knows about sane
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The people that need to know about Sane will know, just as they will know exactly who their targets are and where they will be used.
 
blueparrot said:
The people that need to know about Sane will know, just as they will know exactly who their targets are and where they will be used.
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actually no they won't.....they won't know if he will reach his potential...just like Ballotelli who had all the talent int he world but look at him....the list of failed next world stars is pretty big.

Yes he looks a good prospect...will he reach the level of even being in that next bracket of player just below your mess's and renaldo's...possibly but no one knows if he will....aubamayang is already in that bracket (probably won't go any higher) and at present is far a superior player than Sane (and nolito) The very same can be said of Nacho....will he get the the level of a Sergio/Lewnadowski/Muller - or even the next level down - we all hope so but he is well away from that at present as is Sane
 
Tarzan41 said:
When did the window shut?
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thats not the point...these are our reported targets so they are the only ones we can discuss as yet...and thats what people are doing...if this guy is one of our targets then in my opinion i think we should be looking at better (and so do other people)...when we get words of those different targets (if they do exist) then we will discuss the relative merits of them as well.
 
simon23 said:
thats not the point...these are our reported targets so they are the only ones we can discuss as yet...and thats what people are doing...if this guy is one of our targets then in my opinion i think we should be looking at better (and so do other people)...when we get words of those different targets (if they do exist) then we will discuss the relative merits of them as well.
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But Pep builds teams not a collection of names, would you have been impressed with Costa and Coman, if we had been linked last year or should Bayern have been looking a t better, would you have been impressed if we had been linked to Payet, Mahrez, or Kante, last summer. We will buy players that can play and do what Pep requires, not just players that are well known or established.
 
blueparrot said:
But Pep builds teams not a collection of names, would you have been impressed with Costa and Coman, if we had been linked last year or should Bayern been looking a t better, would you have been impressed if we had been linked to Payet, Mahrez, or Kante, last summer. We will buy players that can play and do what Pep requires, not just players that are well known or established.
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Im judging him as a player...not on his name or his standing on a list of the top 1000 professional footballers........it has nothing to do whether he is established or not but whether he is the better player....and Aubamayang is the better player out of all 3....so he is obviously going to cost more. There is nothing that Nolito can do that Aubamayang cannot but Aubamayang is by far the superior goal threat.....whic is something EVERY fan knows we need int he inevitable absence of Kun.

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simon23 said:
Im judging him as a player...not on his name or his standing on a list of the top 1000 professional footballers........it has nothing to do whether he is established or not but whether he is the better player....and Aubamayang is the better player out of all 3....so he is obviously going to cost more. There is nothing that Nolito can do that Aubamayang cannot but Aubamayang is by far the superior goal threat.....whic is something EVERY fan knows we need int he inevitable absence of Kun.

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Aubameyang is a striker.

Nolito is a winger.

Rumours currently link is to both.

Signing Nolito doesn't preclude us from getting Aubameyang, Sane, Kroos or others.

Why is this so hard to understand?
 
simon23 said:
Im judging him as a player...not on his name or his standing on a list of the top 1000 professional footballers........it has nothing to do whether he is established or not but whether he is the better player....and Aubamayang is the better player out of all 3....so he is obviously going to cost more. There is nothing that Nolito can do that Aubamayang cannot but Aubamayang is by far the superior goal threat.....whic is something EVERY fan knows we need int he inevitable absence of Kun.

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Not every fan, Aguero misses about 6 league games and about 10 overall most seasons, with Iheanacho to cover its more important the players we buy to play alongside Aguero in a front 3, complement the team rather than try and fit in just in case Aguero and Iheanacho are injured. If Pep thinks that Aubameryang, fine , if he's happy with Sane or Norlito , I'm not going to judge him until I See with my own eyes how it works . I think he has enough credit in the game to be trusted to get it right.
 
simon23 said:
so backs up my pint even more...he is an inside forward able to play across the front 3.......nolito doesn't and no one knows about sane
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There more to a winger than just cutting inside and shoot. Aubameyang cannot do what Nolito and Sane does defensively.
 
Akiva said:
Aubameyang is a striker.

Nolito is a winger.

Rumours currently link is to both.

Signing Nolito doesn't preclude us from getting Aubameyang, Sane, Kroos or others.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Wasting your time,he is set against Nolito and that is that
 
bluesingh said:
There more to a winger than just cutting inside and shoot. Aubameyang cannot do what Nolito and Sane does defensively.
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learning that is easier and can be trained into a player...if indeed he cant do it which I'm not sure he cant.......Im certainly not sure Sane is defensive minded at all...Nolito i will agree with you and he looks like a player that is a bit of a fighter..btu we need him to be more than that and i don't think he has the required level that ewe need to provide enough goal threat (especially in the absence of Kun)
 
blueparrot said:
Not every fan, Aguero misses about 6 league games and about 10 overall most seasons, with Iheanacho to cover its more important the players we buy to play alongside Aguero in a front 3, complement the team rather than try and fit in just in case Aguero and Iheanacho are injured. If Pep thinks that Aubameryang, fine , if he's happy with Sane or Norlito , I'm not going to judge him until I See with my own eyes how it works . I think he has enough credit in the game to be trusted to get it right.
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firstly the impact on when Kun is missing is huge

second having a player to play instead of Kun when a rest is needed is also vital and will lesson the chances of injuries to Kun due to fatigue.

Aubamayang will compliment the team as he can play either side of a central striker (Nacho cant and Sane is yet unproven at this)

No manager is infallible and just blinding using Ill trust the manager reason is no argument at all - people trusted Pellers/Mancini and a whole list of managers before them and those at other clubs - they all get things wrong including Pep...and like I said its not just Pep whose judgement it is on these players..its Txixi and his record is decidedly less than impressive.
 
Akiva said:
Rumours currently link is to both.

Signing Nolito doesn't preclude us from getting Aubameyang, Sane, Kroos or others.



Ive asked this though previously..if its a case of signing both fine...if its one or the other then there is only one we should be going for IF (as rumoured) the player is keen.....noone has definitively said both.......a lot of reports (I know we can take those with a huge pinch of salt) have said Nolito is plan b for Aubamayang
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karen7 said:
Wasting your time,he is set against Nolito and that is that
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Ha

so i see the whole point of a forum is lost on some......maybe we should only allows posts and posters who agree with everything that the club does and the manager et al do. (and for he record I think Gudongan is a superb signing and I think the idea of getting Kroos if we can is also brilliant;, I don't rate stones as high as some but we need a centre half so in terms of that Im for it as well)

Also for the record, Im not dead set against him and that is that....Im dead set against him if its him or Aubamayang....if we get them both then fine...if aubamayang doesn't want to come and we get Nolito then also fine....but going for Nolito because he is a cheaper option than Aubamayang that I am against.

I also don't think he is the better player....which at the end is the most important thing. (both in terms of individual and what they bring to the team)
 
simon23 said:
thats not the point...these are our reported targets so they are the only ones we can discuss as yet...and thats what people are doing...if this guy is one of our targets then in my opinion i think we should be looking at better (and so do other people)...when we get words of those different targets (if they do exist) then we will discuss the relative merits of them as well.
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No. The point is people are judging the window before it's even open.
 
Nolito and Sane in, Navas out.

Those two along with Sterling, plus the option of de Bruyne (would rather him central) sounds very good to me.
 
bluesingh said:
Lol why the f*** people are assuming that Aubameyang's deal have anything to do with Nolito. Aubameyang is NOT a winger, yes he CAN play there, just like KDB can play at the wings. But would you want him to play averagely at a position he's not suitable for? NOPE. Go and ask any BVB fan, they'll tell you he's not right for the RW let alone LW where Nolito would play. smh!
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What would Arsenal fans have said about Henry going to Barca to play left wing?
 
BlueDeadHead said:
What would Arsenal fans have said about Henry going to Barca to play left wing?
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Turning a young 21-year-old Winger into a Striker is a lot easier than making a 27 y/o , already established striker, who obviously never played on the left side of the wing, learn how to contribute defensively.
Point being, that it is already proven that he is average on the wings, so why would you break the british record transfer fee for a player who you don't intend to utilise properly.
 
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