North Stand Construction Discussion

Taken from instagram. The pictures are a bit grainy as the video of the Yellow Wall chanting was small.

So that's how a small group of Dortmund Ultras at the front of the Gelbe Wand stand, orchastrate the 25,000 Dortmund fans that make up the Yellow Wall.

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Thoughts about it?

Would you like to see something similar if the North stand was expanded?

Are you now less impressed with the Yellow Wall, or is it just what it is in Germany and with the Ultra culture across Europe?

To see this video and other videos of Dortmund fans and the Yellow Wall go to 0231.dortmund - instagram.
 
jrb said:
Taken from instagram. The pictures are a bit grainy as the video of the Yellow Wall chanting was small.

So that's how a small group of Dortmund Ultras at the front of the Gelbe Wand stand, orchastrate the 25,000 Dortmund fans that make up the Yellow Wall.

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61-F6-C908-6-B93-4-F3-B-9-F88-B71-B9543814-D.jpg


Thoughts about it?

Would you like to see something similar if the North stand was expanded?

Are you now less impressed with the Yellow Wall, or is it just what it is in Germany and with the Ultra culture across Europe?

To see this video and other videos of Dortmund fans and the Yellow Wall go to 0231.dortmund - instagram.
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They have these fellas at most grounds in Germany. I had the ‘pleasure’ of being in the stand near them on a couple of occasions too here in Cologne. A total pain in the arse.

I hope this shite never makes it’s way over to the UK.
 
I remember us playing Bayern in October 2013 and there were 2 or 3 fans at the front there that missed the entire game so they could choreograph the away fans. Thought it was ridiculous, although the results are impressive.
 
jrb said:
Taken from instagram. The pictures are a bit grainy as the video of the Yellow Wall chanting was small.

So that's how a small group of Dortmund Ultras at the front of the Gelbe Wand stand, orchastrate the 25,000 Dortmund fans that make up the Yellow Wall.

0-B649-C28-C4-A9-41-DF-9427-EDF196-AE06-C1.jpg


61-F6-C908-6-B93-4-F3-B-9-F88-B71-B9543814-D.jpg


Thoughts about it?

Would you like to see something similar if the North stand was expanded?

Are you now less impressed with the Yellow Wall, or is it just what it is in Germany and with the Ultra culture across Europe?

To see this video and other videos of Dortmund fans and the Yellow Wall go to 0231.dortmund - instagram.
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German football get a lot right, but this is garbage.

Its like watching a robotic show. Absolutely no reaction to anything that happens on the pitch - just go through their rehearsed routines for 90 mins.

I recall watching the Bayern v Villarreal champs league game earlier a few weeks back and specifically looking at the giant flags behind the goal that wave constantly throughout the game. Why would anybody stand behind them ? but then I honestly think nobody is actually watching the football.

Villareal score a last minute winner to put Bayern out at that end of the stadium - yet the giant flag holders keep on waving their giant flags. Robots.

English football is about emotion, reaction, banter, not this rehearsed routine nonsense.
 
I’m all for having ultras getting the chants going / inspiring the crowd. I’ve been to see Atalanta in Bergamo and they have a rocking atmosphere as a consequence. The ultras pull up anyone not contributing to the atmosphere with gestures / encouragement and I think we need some of that.

FWIW people saying a single tier north stand will transform our atmosphere are misguided. We will have a good atmosphere when most Blues are ready to contribute to raising the noise levels.
 
Build a huge end, make it predominantly standing, and start having certain days of the season where there is reduced ’family entertainment’. It is just as fake and as choreographed as the Ultra phenomenon, but it’s top-down and stifles any natural response from the supporters. Could start by having a a throwback day, say for the FA Cup, when there is no pre-match music or choreographed build up in the ground and see what the support can generate themselves.
 
ooh vonky vonky said:
They have these fellas at most grounds in Germany. I had the ‘pleasure’ of being in the stand near them on a couple of occasions too here in Cologne. A total pain in the arse.

I hope this shite never makes it’s way over to the UK.
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I love German football but hate the orchestrated fan behaviour. I think the atmosphere at some German stadia is all a bit contrived to be honest. Bayern for example is very sterile. I much prefer the more chaotic nature of places like Poznan, Porto, and Aris Salonika. They still have organised displays in Greece and Poland but it has a much more spontaneous feel. I also think all this marching to the ground stuff is total bollocks. To be fair so do a lot of German fans I have met who prefer to stay in the pub while the virtue-signallers parade themselves.
 
blueparrot said:
It was full of real fans yesterday and the atmosphere was superb.
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Exactly , it's not rocket science, we have a huge working class fanbase, give them easy to obtain, reasonably priced tickets and we will fill a expanded stadium and create the atmosphere like yesterday far more often.

Corporate is needed for cash revenue but the downside is your selling your soul and killing the atmosphere.

Sort it out Soriano, this is a fans club.
 
Keeper! said:
Exactly , it's not rocket science, we have a huge working class fanbase, give them easy to obtain, reasonably priced tickets and we will fill a expanded stadium and create the atmosphere like yesterday far more often.

Corporate is needed for cash revenue but the downside is your selling your soul and killing the atmosphere.

Sort it out Soriano, this is a fans club.
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But nearly all the fans in yesterday will be the same fans in every week. So the atmosphere dpends on circumstances, not the fans we get and not the design of the stands. Corporate hasn't killed anything .
 
blueparrot said:
But nearly all the fans in yesterday will be the same fans in every week. So the atmosphere dpends on circumstances, not the fans we get and not the design of the stands. Corporate hasn't killed anything .
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It does but in many games especially in mid week champions league games the atmosphere is terrible, we have given far too much space to tourists/corporate to keep the price of tickets high, lot's of people have been priced out, there are a huge number of fans that simply can't afford to attend, time to make a change, give football back to the real fans
 
Keeper! said:
It does but in many games especially in mid week champions league games the atmosphere is terrible, we have given far too much space to tourists/corporate to keep the price of tickets high, lot's of people have been priced out, there are a huge number of fans that simply can't afford to attend, time to make a change, give football back to the real fans
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Again though the group games are cheaper, but the knockouts have a good atomosphere, sometimes the best.Yesterday was the most expensive game, but the best atmosphere. I'm all for cheaper tickets, but the occasion will always count more towards the atmosphere.
 
blueparrot said:
Again though the group games are cheaper, but the knockouts have a good atomosphere, sometimes the best.Yesterday was the most expensive game, but the best atmosphere. I'm all for cheaper tickets, but the occasion will always count more towards the atmosphere.
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I agree, yesterday was not the best example, a game like that was a complete one off, a game never to be forgotten but the fact remains most of our homes games the atmosphere is poor and needs to improve.
 
Keeper! said:
I agree, yesterday was not the best example, a game like that was a complete one off, a game never to be forgotten but the fact remains most of our homes games the atmosphere is poor and needs to improve.
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But yesterday is a good example, sat in City Square and around the ground, in the stadium there were I guess 45,000 City fans, not corporate, ordinary City fans the same City fans that go most weeks. So if you want a better atmosphere then these are the fans that will create it same as they do more often than you suggest. Whether there are corporate fans in there or not makes no difference to whether tose 45,000 ordinary blues do or don't ramp up the atmosphere.
 
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