North Stand Construction Discussion

[supercity88]

Hi Everyone.

1894 are surveying fans about the North Stand extension.

City contacted us and told us they want the extended North Stand to be an atmospheric 'end' where our singers can congregate. We will most likely work with City (and other fan groups) to try and make this a success.

The survey should take less than 5 minutes to complete.

It's specifically about singing/atmosphere. If you're not too interested in that, please ignore it.

We are using the feedback to help us formulate an official response to City with our suggestions.

Please click here to complete the survey.

Thanks!

Done mate. It's good the club are asking the right people. The questions on that survey are worth discussing on here again.

I personally think the extended 2nd tier has to be safe standing. That instantly will get the right people moving to it. I also think the club should let 1894/other fan groups lead on allocating tickets from the stand so that they go to the right people. Other clubs have done this and it's sort of self-policed. If you're in there and not singing you're out.

The main issue will be pricing. Do they incentivise people? Or do they even need to if the design is right? That's where problems will occur. You can't really give 3,000 tickets or so at a lower price just to get certain people in there. But equally, pricing it as the cheapest part of the ground isn't going to automatically mean it's full of singers.

 

[Manchester33]

Done mate. It's good the club are asking the right people. The questions on that survey are worth discussing on here again.

I personally think the extended 2nd tier has to be safe standing. That instantly will get the right people moving to it. I also think the club should let 1894/other fan groups lead on allocating tickets from the stand so that they go to the right people. Other clubs have done this and it's sort of self-policed. If you're in there and not singing you're out.

The main issue will be pricing. Do they incentivise people? Or do they even need to if the design is right? That's where problems will occur. You can't really give 3,000 tickets or so at a lower price just to get certain people in there. But equally, pricing it as the cheapest part of the ground isn't going to automatically mean it's full of singers.

Yep, some good feedback there, thanks.

We are certain the club will give us (1894) X seats to allocate to our members. How big that number will be, we don't know. We also don't know if that will be level 1 or 2. We take it very seriously, we literally select specific people for specific seats - we did a form of A/B testing in previous singing sections to test what works well.

It's very important that we self-police that section. If people aren't contributing, we should be able to move them away from the section - how that will work in practice is another issue though.

Looking at the results so far 'Atmosphere' is the most important thing to fans with 'Price' a close second. We don't want fans (who won't contribute to the atmosphere) to move there for cheap tickets. But we also don't want the singers to move elsewhere because it's cheaper. A really difficult balancing act, but we'll try our best.

 

[HelloCity]

Yep, some good feedback there, thanks.

We are certain the club will give us (1894) X seats to allocate to our members. How big that number will be, we don't know. We also don't know if that will be level 1 or 2. We take it very seriously, we literally select specific people for specific seats - we did a form of A/B testing in previous singing sections to test what works well.

It's very important that we self-police that section. If people aren't contributing, we should be able to move them away from the section - how that will work in practice is another issue though.

Looking at the results so far 'Atmosphere' is the most important thing to fans with 'Price' a close second. We don't want fans (who won't contribute to the atmosphere) to move there for cheap tickets. But we also don't want the singers to move elsewhere because it's cheaper. A really difficult balancing act, but we'll try our best.

It's possible if the upper tier is all safe standing it might put some people off joining just because it's cheaper.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Yep, some good feedback there, thanks.

We are certain the club will give us (1894) X seats to allocate to our members. How big that number will be, we don't know. We also don't know if that will be level 1 or 2.

I’ve filled the survey in - good luck with it all mate.

If we end up with safe standing in only level 1 that would be incredibly disappointing in my opinion and a huge opportunity missed. A huge new home end, but we don’t use that as a singing section?

I think the family stand should remain where it is and the second tier turns into the home end. You wouldn’t have to force thousands out of the family stand as well.

The second tier would allow huge tifos, displays and the opportunity to allow more people in to join in.

 

[Manncity]

Let’s not forget those in the family stand tier 2 now are making the first 30 rows full, they won’t want safe standing!

 

[Centurions]

Yep, some good feedback there, thanks.

We are certain the club will give us (1894) X seats to allocate to our members. How big that number will be, we don't know. We also don't know if that will be level 1 or 2. We take it very seriously, we literally select specific people for specific seats - we did a form of A/B testing in previous singing sections to test what works well.

It's very important that we self-police that section. If people aren't contributing, we should be able to move them away from the section - how that will work in practice is another issue though.

Looking at the results so far 'Atmosphere' is the most important thing to fans with 'Price' a close second. We don't want fans (who won't contribute to the atmosphere) to move there for cheap tickets. But we also don't want the singers to move elsewhere because it's cheaper. A really difficult balancing act, but we'll try our best.

I'd make them equal to the cheapest tickets elsewhere in the ground (giving others a fair crack at cheap tickets) but let you guys self-police. It may take a season or two to get the balance right but long term it'll be worth it.

I'd have the seats locked up for league games and make that very clear to discourage anyone just looking for a cheap seat.

Obviously, no one in that section should be moved for cup games and UEFA comps.

 

[Centurions]

Let’s not forget those in the family stand tier 2 now are making the first 30 rows full, they won’t want safe standing!

How many in tier 1 are actually families? Perhaps they can move people who aren't and relocate tier 2 families to tier 1? There'll have to be a better (simpler) pricing strategy around the ground to encourage them to move.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Only my preference, but I’d like the whole stand safe-standing and a designated singing area, with the family stand scrapped, or moved to the corners of ES1/CB1, a central column from behind the goals right to the top of tier 2 classified as unreserved seating, this area will be season card holders, who can select their seat on a match by making basis for a certain amount of games (trial period) before locking their seats in at a later date

 

[BufordUSABlue]

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[BufordUSABlue]

Only my preference, but I’d like the whole stand safe-standing and a designated singing area, with the family stand scrapped, or moved to the corners of ES1/CB1, a central column from behind the goals right to the top of tier 2 classified as unreserved seating, this area will be season card holders, who can select their seat on a match by making basis for a certain amount of games (trial period) before locking their seats in at a later date

Just curious mate, why on earth would you want to 'scrap' the Family Stand?