northwich vics

[shilly8903]

I moved to the area over 4 years ago and still trying to decide on a Local team.

Limited knowledge says that Witton are like the rags and Northwich more like City but playing in Stafford means they are no longer local.

i would completely disagree - i moved to northwich 15 years ago , at the time vics were playing at the drill field ( about 10 mins walk from our house ) and getting about 1,000 per match , while Witton were quite a bit further out of town from me and were getting only around 300 . Vics were all over the back pages while very little mention of Witton . then Nigel Gleghorn took over at witton which kind of pushed me towards them - even though i would only go and see them a couple of times a season . so at the time Vics were like the big successful club (United) while witton were the struggling little club (City). then to cap it all, about 4/5 years ago Vics linked up with united , letting their reserves play at the new ground , so all the signs had vics and united crests all over them - Now back to present times - the once" mighty" vics are in serious danger thru' bad management , bookkeeping and in my opinion karma (coz of the tie-in with Utd) whilst little old witton are on the up !

All valid points but in my earlier post were I compared witton to united and vics to CITY was on the grounds of vics being the more working class club an witton being more for the upper class. In my school the poor kids went vics an the toffs went to witton and that has always seemed the same for Man City.

 

[Kazimierz Genious]

I moved to the area over 4 years ago and still trying to decide on a Local team.

Limited knowledge says that Witton are like the rags and Northwich more like City but playing in Stafford means they are no longer local.

Witton Albion have been my second team since 1985 when I moved to Northwich, I evern went to Wemberley with them for the FA trophy final in 1992. To say Witton are like the rags does indeed display limited knowledge Northwoch Vics have lorded it over Witton until this season when they are lower than Witton for the first time ever following being relegated AGAIN for financial irregularities!

 

[citymacc]

Greetings and sorry to intrude. I won't stay long, but prompted by the interest in our plight I thought I'd give you a few facts - not the whole story, you've got a game to get to later so you haven't got time.

We left the Drill Field because it couldn't be brought up to Conference ground grading standards at the time. Basically too old etc. But the move is shrouded in controversy because the council then delayed the planning permission to the housing development, which delayed the money for the sale, which delayed the new ground building, etc etc. We ended up spending half the proceeds on ground sharing with Witton.

Since then we have had two owners verging on the criminal. Mike Connett came with lots of promises, then announced in a TV interview that the stadium was his pension fund, then went bankrupt. Jim Rushe arrived full of promises, but never divulged the finances, ran up debts everywhere, didn't pay the CVA from the previous owner, ended up with his own CVA, didn't pay that either, didn't (doesn't?) pay any bills, alienated the entire local business community, has run up numerous CCJs for unpaid bills, failed to buy the stadium from the administrators (rumours are that they wouldn't accept his money because the sources were dubious - allegedly), got us kicked out of the stadium, annoyed the league we were in by disputing absolutely everything, led to us being relegated for financial irregularities (a mild term in the circumstances), agreed a ground share 40 miles away (because nobody nearer would deal with him), then asked to move to Flixton (still 20+ miles away) and threw a hissy fit when the league told him to stick to his first agreement and stop messing them about.

He's now presiding over a team with Northwich in the name which has absolutely no connection with the town, and the majority of fans have stopped going. The Supporters Trust are making plans for when the sums finally don't add up - which on gates of 60-odd and monthly outgoings of several thousand was probably a few months ago. Where is the money coming from to keep him going? A good question with a murky answer - not least because there is a friendship with Stephen Vaughan (google him) to factor in.

To attract one unscrupulous owner may be unfortunate, to attract two in succession sounds like carelessness, as Oscar Wilde would have said - but what can the ordinary fan do? At the moment, sit and wait for it all to implode. Then try to ressurect football in Northwich.

Oh, and incidentally, Northwich Villa are officially nothing to do with Vics (one owner of two clubs is against FA rules). Yeah, right. They play at Flixton, where Rushe has signed a three year lease - and where he wants Vics to play. So, as you see, he is making every effort to bring the club back home. Yeah, right.

Sorry to go on at you. Have a good season.

Excellently summed-up!

 

[Ed68]

I moved to the area over 4 years ago and still trying to decide on a Local team.

Limited knowledge says that Witton are like the rags and Northwich more like City but playing in Stafford means they are no longer local.

Witton Albion have been my second team since 1985 when I moved to Northwich, I evern went to Wemberley with them for the FA trophy final in 1992. To say Witton are like the rags does indeed display limited knowledge Northwoch Vics have lorded it over Witton until this season when they are lower than Witton for the first time ever following being relegated AGAIN for financial irregularities!

I only picked up this response when searching for Witton Albion as they are playing FCUM on Boxing Day - gutted it's not a home game for Witton.

Good to see the wording on your response understands the limited knowledge and not just an insult as so often happens on Internet forums!

Stil not chose a team though I'm not going to Stafford for a 'home game'.

 

[DelToro]

I moved to the area over 4 years ago and still trying to decide on a Local team.

Limited knowledge says that Witton are like the rags and Northwich more like City but playing in Stafford means they are no longer local.

Witton Albion have been my second team since 1985 when I moved to Northwich, I evern went to Wemberley with them for the FA trophy final in 1992. To say Witton are like the rags does indeed display limited knowledge Northwoch Vics have lorded it over Witton until this season when they are lower than Witton for the first time ever following being relegated AGAIN for financial irregularities!

Agree with this. I moved to the area 20 years ago and have followed both teams when I could. Witton are a very well run club whose teams try to play passing football year in, year out. No similarity to the rags whatsoever.

 

[shilly8903]

I moved to the area over 4 years ago and still trying to decide on a Local team.

Limited knowledge says that Witton are like the rags and Northwich more like City but playing in Stafford means they are no longer local.

Witton Albion have been my second team since 1985 when I moved to Northwich, I evern went to Wemberley with them for the FA trophy final in 1992. To say Witton are like the rags does indeed display limited knowledge Northwoch Vics have lorded it over Witton until this season when they are lower than Witton for the first time ever following being relegated AGAIN for financial irregularities!

Agree with this. I moved to the area 20 years ago and have followed both teams when I could. Witton are a very well run club whose teams try to play passing football year in, year out. No similarity to the rags whatsoever.

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Witton fans are the posher folk northwich fans are more the working class fan similar to city like I pointed out earlier. If you going to choose a team wouldn't that be more important to you than picking the smaller less successful team just because that's how you perceive man city.

 

[shilly8903]

I moved to the area over 4 years ago and still trying to decide on a Local team.

Limited knowledge says that Witton are like the rags and Northwich more like City but playing in Stafford means they are no longer local.

Witton Albion have been my second team since 1985 when I moved to Northwich, I evern went to Wemberley with them for the FA trophy final in 1992. To say Witton are like the rags does indeed display limited knowledge Northwoch Vics have lorded it over Witton until this season when they are lower than Witton for the first time ever following being relegated AGAIN for financial irregularities!

Why have they lorded it over them? Just because they were the bigger and better club of the two doesn't actually mean they lorded it over them, that's just the way it was. You can't compare them to the rags in that way in my opinion.

 

[DelToro]

Witton Albion have been my second team since 1985 when I moved to Northwich, I evern went to Wemberley with them for the FA trophy final in 1992. To say Witton are like the rags does indeed display limited knowledge Northwoch Vics have lorded it over Witton until this season when they are lower than Witton for the first time ever following being relegated AGAIN for financial irregularities!

Agree with this. I moved to the area 20 years ago and have followed both teams when I could. Witton are a very well run club whose teams try to play passing football year in, year out. No similarity to the rags whatsoever.

O

Witton fans are the posher folk northwich fans are more the working class fan similar to city like I pointed out earlier. If you going to choose a team wouldn't that be more important to you than picking the smaller less successful team just because that's how you perceive man city.

In what way are Witton fans posher than Northwich fans? I don't see many Bentleys outside Witton's ground on match days.

Witon are far better than Vics at engaging with the local community, giving kids free tickets, inviting junior football teams to home games etc. In that respect they are much more like City - a community based team. I have nothing against Vics whatsoever and I hope that they sort themselves out but they could learn a thing or two from Witton.