Norwich Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

ChichesterBlue said:
VOOMER said:
Its easy to blame Pellers, we would be wrong. We are playing some key players to often, because in general the squad is wafer thin. No serious back up to challenge Zabs (Micah don't make me laugh). The left backs blow hot and cold, there's no one to challenge and therefore take the burden of Vinnie. Nasri is injured we should now view how important a midfield with the control and poise of Fernie, Yaya, Nasri and Silva is. The back up aside from Navas and Milner is crap. The biggest crime is that we have clearly been rushing Sergio back early everytime, because there's fuck all variation between The Beast and Edin, Jovetic is 3 games away from being sharp if indeed he is.
As per last season, we haven't improved the squad enough. Nigel was and is better than anyone we have in that role, Mario was and is way better than Edin, but The beast is, but we haven't bought anyone of the quality of Yaya, Silva, Sergio and Nasri. I feel the we have a great owner and two spoilt brats, who seem to think they can make people jump too our tune like they did at Barca, they can't because we don't have that ultimate pulling power. We will likely have to pay over the odds for world class players (Hazard was immense on Monday)for a while longe, but if paying £85 million for Bale isn't over the odds then what is.
At full strength we are awesome, 3 injuries and we are very mortal, that isn't really Pellers fault, just as it wasn't Bobbys.
Someone posted that Barca work on the basis of having 17 top draw players really top quality and everyone else is a youth player therefore, in theory hungry and determined to usurp the established player. That I believe is what we are hopefully heading too, as long as the people in charge,have a reality check on our position to negotiate, when dealing with some major targets. Its not over, we need to show some balls.

The squad is paper thin? Get a grip....yeah yeah we'd all like a squad of £25m+ players, not gonna happen, never will as you can't keep everyone happy. We still have the best squad by miles in terms of strength in depth. Today's starting 11 were so superior in terms of ability than Norwich's. It's how you approach the game and the mentality and desire of the players that matters. Today for whatever reason (again against an organised lower table side) we didn't turn up and play like we should have been able to.

We struggle when Ferni is out , 5 points from the 5 games he has been out this seaaon.

We will struggle on Wednesday as well but hopefully we keep a clean sheet and are a bit more clinical in front of goal to get a 1-0 , 2-0 win.

We certainly need strengthening in midfield and defence and a quality replacement for Dzeko if he moves on.

A side that relies on MDM , Garcia, Milner, Rodwell , to fill in any major gaps for most games or games against hard pressing opposition is going to struggle.

Richards and Nasty are unlikely to be part of sides wanting to go deep in Chumps League or big players in the premiership so a lot of tinkering is still required.
 
mancity111 said:
ChichesterBlue said:
VOOMER said:
Its easy to blame Pellers, we would be wrong. We are playing some key players to often, because in general the squad is wafer thin. No serious back up to challenge Zabs (Micah don't make me laugh). The left backs blow hot and cold, there's no one to challenge and therefore take the burden of Vinnie. Nasri is injured we should now view how important a midfield with the control and poise of Fernie, Yaya, Nasri and Silva is. The back up aside from Navas and Milner is crap. The biggest crime is that we have clearly been rushing Sergio back early everytime, because there's fuck all variation between The Beast and Edin, Jovetic is 3 games away from being sharp if indeed he is.
As per last season, we haven't improved the squad enough. Nigel was and is better than anyone we have in that role, Mario was and is way better than Edin, but The beast is, but we haven't bought anyone of the quality of Yaya, Silva, Sergio and Nasri. I feel the we have a great owner and two spoilt brats, who seem to think they can make people jump too our tune like they did at Barca, they can't because we don't have that ultimate pulling power. We will likely have to pay over the odds for world class players (Hazard was immense on Monday)for a while longe, but if paying £85 million for Bale isn't over the odds then what is.
At full strength we are awesome, 3 injuries and we are very mortal, that isn't really Pellers fault, just as it wasn't Bobbys.
Someone posted that Barca work on the basis of having 17 top draw players really top quality and everyone else is a youth player therefore, in theory hungry and determined to usurp the established player. That I believe is what we are hopefully heading too, as long as the people in charge,have a reality check on our position to negotiate, when dealing with some major targets. Its not over, we need to show some balls.

The squad is paper thin? Get a grip....yeah yeah we'd all like a squad of £25m+ players, not gonna happen, never will as you can't keep everyone happy. We still have the best squad by miles in terms of strength in depth. Today's starting 11 were so superior in terms of ability than Norwich's. It's how you approach the game and the mentality and desire of the players that matters. Today for whatever reason (again against an organised lower table side) we didn't turn up and play like we should have been able to.

We struggle when Ferni is out , 5 points from the 5 games he has been out this seaaon.

We will struggle on Wednesday as well but hopefully we keep a clean sheet and are a bit more clinical in front of goal to get a 1-0 , 2-0 win.

We certainly need strengthening in midfield and defence and a quality replacement for Dzeko if he moves on.

We have needed this since we won the title but have failed miserably to sort it.

Only Fernandinho has added anything to our defence and midfield since then.

Nastasic, Demichellis, Garcia and Rodwell all signed since then and none are good enough.

That is around £75m spent since 11/12 and very little value added.

We had another chance in January and failed again. It could very well cost us.
 
I would have changed the formation today a little to get the best of of Yaya who could and normally is the difference in games like this.

---Milner----Rodwell----

Silva------Yaya-----Jovetic

----------Negredo----------

Is what i would have played.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Our geriatric manager has cost us. Again.

We will not make top 4 with this old fool in charge.

need a new manager in the summer and maybe another 1st million spent.

disgusted.
you really do need to get a grip DICK HEAD
 
Ducado said:
steviemc said:
citymad said:
Totally agree from both of you. I just don't think we have the mentality in our players to really push for the title apart from maybe hart, vinny and Zabba. This is a great opportunity for success. Next season will be tougher with Liverpool, rags, Chelsea and of course arsenal challenging for the title. Worse, We may lose the likes of Aguero, silva and yaya in the summer which will tear our squad apart. Call me a drama queen but this result could have dire consequences.
Drama queen to end all drama queens

It makes you wonder if they are even allowed out of the house unaccompanied, I often wonder if people look back at stuff like this and think, "Did I really post that Crap?" I also beleive that football at this level is far to stressful for some City fans, they just don't seem able to deal with disappointment for some reason, it's not like we are all jumping for joy after today and Monday all of us are pissed off, but it's how you handle being pissed off that counts

Spot on. Some of these people cannot have experienced the pain of the yo yo seasons when we were biting our nails until we got 38 points and still relegated. Then we had the stress of trying to get promoted!! The last few seasons AND this season should be ENJOYED. We are in the early stages of our climb to the top of the football world but sometimes there are backward steps before we leap forward. Remember the Arteta goal for Arsenal that the press told us had cost us the title…………..…There are still 39 points to play for and we are only 2 points behind the leaders. Our best players have yet to come back and we shall be ready for the hard work leading up to Easter and beyond.
 
Lack of pace is a huge problem. Can't think of a lot of our players who are quick. Clichy, Navas, Aguero?
 
I actually wouldn't have minded a draw...................had we beat Chelsea Monday night.

Still pissed off but not throwing in the towel just yet.
 
TheProdigy2k9 said:
Lack of pace is a huge problem. Can't think of a lot of our players who are quick. Clichy, Navas, Aguero?
It's not individual pace that's ever been a problem going forward. We've proved time and time again that we can play a very quick tempo game as a unit. This obviously relies on players being sharp and fully fit though.
 
Losing Aguero is just a huge hammer blow. Dzeko is gash and Jovetic still gaining match fitness and Negredo has had a great first season but they just aren't on the same level as Aguero which to be fair can be said for many players. Aguero would have made something happen against Chelsea and today. He would have produced a moment of magic to get us the win today. Without him a solid organised defence could keep us out all day long.

Not that there weren't any other factors in todays game. I thought the tactics were baffling as we clearly were never going to win the aerial battle but we just kept putting cross after cross in and just having them head it back out for fun. The corners were atrocious. Both Chelsea and Norwich were happy to let us have as many corners as we wanted as they knew it would never beat the first man or be easily headed out.

With Aguero none of that would matter as he is world class and would just make something happen but without him we looked pretty average the last two games.
 
Krieng_Thai OSC said:
Why did players not play in high tempo as usual is because manager told them to save themselves. I can understand he doesn't want to lose any more player especially Yaya, Silva, Kampany. But just MHO He could set the game plan to play in safe mode against Chelsea and could play full attacking today.

I've been thinking this myself.
 
Tempting to say we lacked confidence. Playing Yaya deep cost us IMO. Disappointing lack of reaction to Monday. Disappointed by Pelle responding to Mou, bit too close to Rafa's "Facts". If you can't be sharp as a tack then shut up and smile. None of it the end of the world.
 
cityok said:
steviemc said:
Hardly anybody had Pool down to absolutely spank the Arse today.

not having that, that was a spanking coming from a mile off - Liverpool are big scorers this year, loads of goals from all over the park.

Nailed on second for me.

Oh yeah. Hindsight is so wonderful. Where were you telling us this on the other prem games thread.
 
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Krieng_Thai OSC said:
Why did players not play in high tempo as usual is because manager told them to save themselves. I can understand he doesn't want to lose any more player especially Yaya, Silva, Kampany. But just MHO He could set the game plan to play in safe mode against Chelsea and could play full attacking today.

I've been thinking this myself.

I doubt it. Surely he would have been better off telling the team to blitz them in the first half then sit back when the game is over.
 
I thought the conditions played a huge part today,although we looked pretty dire up front.Still everything to play for and a draw is better than a loss which it so easily could have been with those two Norwich chances late on.
 
Only read a couple of pages but seems like we need to get a giant towel for us fans to throw in.

Or we could grow some, get behind the team and see where it takes us - like two years ago
 
It's an absolute pisser on here, it really is. We lose a game and draw a game, after a brilliant run, and people are acting like the world is ending in lemmingesque fashion. Fucking hell grow up some/most of you, plenty of time left and points to be got.

God only knows what it would be like if we were battling the drop.
 

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