Now Kia is having a go at Mancini

Didsbury Dave said:
bluemoonmatt said:
It was mentioned in game, can't remember exactly what was said but I remember the commentators definitely touched on it. Words to effect of "there's clearly an argument going on at the man city bench" (camera's then cut to the bench showing Tevez wave the back of his hand in the direction of Mancini who in turn was finger pointing back). TV absolutely knew something had gone off, and it was inevitable they were going to question RM about it. Why shouldn't he answer the question with honesty. Its appeared clear to all, despite the backtracking since, that Tevez refused to come off the bench. Mancini was right to make it clear to all that such an act of insubordination will not be tolerated on his watch. Sadly for you Dave, it seems to have strengthened his position.

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

Ah the squad worship Tevez which is no doubt why the squad approached Mancini last season about removing the Captaincy from Tevez. Perhaps they thought it was too much of a burden for our hero.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
flb said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Absolutely correct. Mancini blew the story worldwide. It would hardly have been noticed otherwise.


Sorry Dave i disagree,the little **** undermimed Mancini on the biggest stage-and by all accounts its not the only time on the touchline hes shown his contempt.

Mancini had every right to call the **** out and to say it would have hardly been noticed if he had said nothing is wrong-the dressing room would have suffered so why should Mancini pacify a player who to be frank is fucking bad news.

Hes had plenty of chances to knuckle down under Mancinis regime-hes caused trouble at EVERY single club hes played at.

Come on dave FFS,your not 100% behind Mancini but give some credit for waht hes did on that night-he called out the little shit,and rightly so.

I'm not defending Tevez one bit, flb. But the whole thing stinks a bit. I can't say Mancini did the right thing coz I don't think he did. There is not one advantage to going public like that, not one. He should have kept his mouth shut and dealt with it behind closed doors.

We'll end up selling him for some stupid knock down price in Jan. Whichever club he fancies will get the deal of the century. FPP is round the corner, this does not help City one bit.

And we looked like fucking clowns in the international media yet again.


Fair opinions dave,in my opinion we will still get £25 million for the fat little fucker.

And i think our stock and respect has risen for saying it how it really is with him.

Virtually everybody has thrown there weight behind us in support-apart from a few city hating shitbags like Scholes and a few more.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
bluemoonmatt said:
It was mentioned in game, can't remember exactly what was said but I remember the commentators definitely touched on it. Words to effect of "there's clearly an argument going on at the man city bench" (camera's then cut to the bench showing Tevez wave the back of his hand in the direction of Mancini who in turn was finger pointing back). TV absolutely knew something had gone off, and it was inevitable they were going to question RM about it. Why shouldn't he answer the question with honesty. Its appeared clear to all, despite the backtracking since, that Tevez refused to come off the bench. Mancini was right to make it clear to all that such an act of insubordination will not be tolerated on his watch. Sadly for you Dave, it seems to have strengthened his position.

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.
Can't imagine them being too enamoured with him after they ran themselves into the ground chasing shadows yet Tevez couldn't be arsed coming on to help them. Don't know how Tevez had the nerve to enter the dressing room at full time myself.
 
Just one example, from about ten minutes before the post match interviews;

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Didsbury Dave said:
flb said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Absolutely correct. Mancini blew the story worldwide. It would hardly have been noticed otherwise.


Sorry Dave i disagree,the little **** undermimed Mancini on the biggest stage-and by all accounts its not the only time on the touchline hes shown his contempt.

Mancini had every right to call the **** out and to say it would have hardly been noticed if he had said nothing is wrong-the dressing room would have suffered so why should Mancini pacify a player who to be frank is fucking bad news.

Hes had plenty of chances to knuckle down under Mancinis regime-hes caused trouble at EVERY single club hes played at.

Come on dave FFS,your not 100% behind Mancini but give some credit for waht hes did on that night-he called out the little shit,and rightly so.

I'm not defending Tevez one bit, flb. But the whole thing stinks a bit. I can't say Mancini did the right thing coz I don't think he did. There is not one advantage to going public like that, not one. He should have kept his mouth shut and dealt with it behind closed doors.

We'll end up selling him for some stupid knock down price in Jan. Whichever club he fancies will get the deal of the century. FPP is round the corner, this does not help City one bit.

And we looked like fucking clowns in the international media yet again.

I can`t see how he could have kept it from the public.
He was asked after the match on live tv why he brought de jong and not Tevez on.
He said that he put De Jong on to calm the midfield down for 5 mins and then he was going to bring on Tevez,but Tevez refused.
Why should he have to lie on live tv for him to be made to look a **** later?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Whilst I don't like him at all, the one thing Kia is right about is that most top managers keep things in house.

In the example given using Fabregas and Nasri, didn't Wenger not "keep it in house" by saying that they were going nowhere 20 minutes before the taxis arrived?

Wenger had his players sold from underneath him. there can be no comparison to what Tevez did...and either way. Who's in charge Mancini or Tevez and his shitbag of an advisor?

If I'd been Mancini I'd have dragged the little **** off the bench by his throat.

What would you rather he do when asked why Tevez hadn't come on and what the row that Shreeves watched and reported? "Carlows felt a leetle unwell"...bollocks, call the fucker out for his disgraceful behaviour.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
bluemoonmatt said:
It was mentioned in game, can't remember exactly what was said but I remember the commentators definitely touched on it. Words to effect of "there's clearly an argument going on at the man city bench" (camera's then cut to the bench showing Tevez wave the back of his hand in the direction of Mancini who in turn was finger pointing back). TV absolutely knew something had gone off, and it was inevitable they were going to question RM about it. Why shouldn't he answer the question with honesty. Its appeared clear to all, despite the backtracking since, that Tevez refused to come off the bench. Mancini was right to make it clear to all that such an act of insubordination will not be tolerated on his watch. Sadly for you Dave, it seems to have strengthened his position.

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.

That must be why we were so shite at Ewood Park on Saturday!
 
Didsbury Dave said:
bluemoonmatt said:
It was mentioned in game, can't remember exactly what was said but I remember the commentators definitely touched on it. Words to effect of "there's clearly an argument going on at the man city bench" (camera's then cut to the bench showing Tevez wave the back of his hand in the direction of Mancini who in turn was finger pointing back). TV absolutely knew something had gone off, and it was inevitable they were going to question RM about it. Why shouldn't he answer the question with honesty. Its appeared clear to all, despite the backtracking since, that Tevez refused to come off the bench. Mancini was right to make it clear to all that such an act of insubordination will not be tolerated on his watch. Sadly for you Dave, it seems to have strengthened his position.

Yes it was, but noone knew what was really going on. It's not just the admitting of it that's the problem, it's the statement that he'll never play for us again which gives the club no room for maneuvre.

And if you think this has strengthened Mancini's position you're deluded. What do you think Abu Dhabi think about this? It's another fallout, another ton of cash wasted on a player the manager can't get on with. It's further evidence of a disunited squad and further bad publicity for Manchester City, this time on a world level.

If we keep winning he's bombproof, but he leaves himself wide open if the results start to go tits up if you ask me.

It's worth remembering the squad worship Tevez too.


Wheres the evidence that the squad worship tevez dave? Why should cunts like him be given more holidays than other team mates and turn up for pre-season later than everybody else for the past three seasons?

Mancini has tried in his own words to accomodate him for the past two seasons-its not worked,with a player yet again he didnt sign.

Theres only one person who has shamed the people in Abu Dhabi and its Tevez.
 
Chick Counterfly said:
Just one example, from about ten minutes before the post match interviews;


I wonder what the next myth will be to make this out to be all Mancini's fault.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
We'll end up selling him for some stupid knock down price in Jan.

We couldn't sell him for the stupid made-up 40 million one in the summer.

So...if he goes for 25 million is that knock-down if you couldn't get any more for him in the first place?

He wants to leave. Will do anything to leave, so the soon we all accept it and get the fuck on with it we can get down to business of finishing above the rags.
 

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