west didsblue
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As a Member of the European Parliament I think it's fair to call him a politician whether he was the leader of UKIP or not at the time.
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As a Member of the European Parliament I think it's fair to call him a politician whether he was the leader of UKIP or not at the time.
Was he at the time of the US election though? If so fair enough but I still stand by my point that he wasn't in our government so him getting involved over there isn't as bad as if say May or Johnson did.
I still don't agree with him doing it mind you.
west didsblue
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Yes. Since 1999 and still is until we leave. He's actually the chairman of the EFDD group in Strasbourg.Was he at the time of the US election though? If so fair enough but I still stand by my point that he wasn't in our government so him getting involved over there isn't as bad as if say May or Johnson did.
I still don't agree with him doing it mind you.
Yes. Since 1999 and still is until we leave. He's actually the chairman of the EFDD group in Strasbourg.
Fair enough but my point still firmly stands
west didsblue
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Wasn't actually arguing with your point:-)Fair enough but my point still firmly stands
Wasn't actually arguing with your point:-)
I know mate. I admit I wasn't sure anyway.
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Yes and he still isWas he at the time of the US election though? If so fair enough but I still stand by my point that he wasn't in our government so him getting involved over there isn't as bad as if say May or Johnson did.
I still don't agree with him doing it mind you.
ChicagoBlue
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Errr...freedom? Is free speech a good enough reason?Yes utter disgrace. He had no right to say that to try and influence another country's democratic referendum.
Just as our politicians had no right to comment on who they would back in the US election.
Now are you going to come up with a reason why he was okay to comment or are you going to carry on not making a point?
If not, how about he felt that as the country with whom the US has a "special friendship," He felt that maintaining an open ECONOMIC border with Europe was better for that relationship?
Open your mind, man, and understand that until the shock of Brexit actually happening, it was a very normal, widespread, cosmopolitan belief. It wasn't exactly going out on a limb to suggest that maintaining a strong economic link with the continent was a good thing....unless, of course, you were blinkered to the fact.
And, FWIW, I was in favor of Brexit. I think sovereignty comes before closer economic ties, and if the cost of such ties is the loss of sovereignty, then it is too high of a price....just as I thought maintaining one's own currency and not joining the Euro was a good thing years ago. Hard to be independent when someone in another country controls your fiscal policies.
ChicagoBlue
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Leader of what now? Leader of a Un-united States who's very banking system helped cause all the global economy to fuck up in the first place. Did he jail anyone? Erm...nope. Did any government officials do anything? Oh wait...a few of them got cushy high paid jobs on wall street. Aaaah.
1) You heard.
2) It's called the law.
3) Dodd Frank
Sorry it didn't all go down like your Bolschy opinion appears to think it should have, but that doesn't negate what he did do in office...even if you think it does.
Is there some pol that you have liked better over the last decade? That has done better?