Offical Election thread

[mat]

The result says the people are fucked off with all of them. No party comes out of this with any praise. The murdochrasy will be in overdrive hounding Brown to get their posh boy in for 12 months maximum before another one will be called.

Disaster my arse, the people who voted have spoken. All those that didn't you have no right to be on this thread.

Electoral reform must be the way forward before anything else.

 

[Skashion]

Either way I suspect were in for a short term Cameron run minority government. I give him two years at most. In that time we'll all witness just how heavy the Tory axe falls on the services we all rely on. Then we will get the chance to rid this land of the Tory blight for another generation or two.

I think the Labour Party have more 'friends' than the tories. Labour + Social Democratic & Labour Party + Lib Dems + SNP + Plaid Cymru should see them form the most fragile minority government in British political history.

 

[Blue Smarties]

Monster Raving Loony Party... quality.

 

[bluemoonmatt]

Re: Offical Election Night thread

I work with five people who have openly stated they would have voted BNP "but they don't stand a chance". So it would be interesting, perhaps worrying to see just how many votes or rather what share they would achieve if PR was the system used as the issue of "standing a chance" would no longer be relevant. I would hazard a guess we would be talking about at least 5 BNP MP's

Depends on the threshold.

Last years European elections gave a decent rough idea of how PR would run in this country. We didn't have any "thresholds" then, and the BNP got two MEP's so I suspect we wouldn't for a General election either. Anyway I believe it would be highly undemocratic to seek to exclude ANY party who has secured sufficient backing be they the BNP, Monster Raving Loonies or even god the bloody tories ;)

 

[Skashion]

Disaster my arse, the people who voted have spoken. All those that didn't you have no right to be on this thread.

Ridiculous.

 

[Matty]

Re: Offical Election Night thread

I work with five people who have openly stated they would have voted BNP "but they don't stand a chance". So it would be interesting, perhaps worrying to see just how many votes or rather what share they would achieve if PR was the system used as the issue of "standing a chance" would no longer be relevant. I would hazard a guess we would be talking about at least 5 BNP MP's

Do you work with them, or are you their carer?

This whole hung parliament thing is going to be a complete fucking nightmare, no-one can claim to be the public's "chosen" party and therefore leader. The Tories got more seats, and more votes, than anyone else but not enough to actually get any bills/policies through without assistance from others. The Lib Dems proved what everyone has always known, without Proportional Representation they are essentially an irrelevance in the long term. Labour have been, essentially, stripped of power regardless of any behind closed doors deals they may now try. How Gordon Brown can still attempt to cling to power is beyond me, Cameron may well not have done enough to claim victory, but Brown has certainly done more than enough to make his position as Prime Minister untenable.

 

[Anonymous]

Either way I suspect were in for a short term Cameron run minority government. I give him two years at most. In that time we'll all witness just how heavy the Tory axe falls on the services we all rely on. Then we will get the chance to rid this land of the Tory blight for another generation or two.

I think the Labour Party have more 'friends' than the tories. Labour + Social Democratic & Labour Party + Lib Dems + SNP + Plaid Cymru should see them form the most fragile minority government in British political history.

Even that combination might not give them an overall majority.; And as for the idea that the SNP & Plaid can suddenly influence policy that has fcuk all to do with them, well that really sticks in my throat.

 

[Challenger1978]

With all this talk about PR going on i've just got a feeling this could be one of the most important and game changing elections in hundred of years. I honestly don't know if its a good or a bad thing though.

 

[Ducado]

The grasp of basic economics of some on this forum is beyond belief, the national debt is not sustainable, where Greece is today if we carry on like this we will follow and the pain will be a lot worse than anything that happened in the 80's!

 

[Skashion]

Re: Offical Election Night thread

Depends on the threshold.

Last years European elections gave a decent rough idea of how PR would run in this country. We didn't have any "thresholds" then, and the BNP got two MEP's so I suspect we wouldn't for a General election either. Anyway I believe it would be highly undemocratic to seek to exclude ANY party who has secured sufficient backing be they the BNP, Monster Raving Loonies or even god the bloody tories ;)

The fact that the European elections don't have one doesn't mean anything because they are not held in anything like the same regard by politicians or the public. I can't see Britain, a fairly conservative country in terms of its electoral system, not having a threshold. Like I said before, I'm easy either way. I just want electoral reform with the aim of being more proportional, threshold or no.