Offside judgement (Laporte v Wolves)

[stonerblue]

Fucking shit.

 

[Chris in London]

I think var has taken itself down a one way street and is completely wrong (though being implemented as per the law right now) on the spirit of the original offside law.

Advantage should go with attacker and there should be far greater margin for on side.

I agree with this to a point, but the thing about offside is that however you define it, you will always have extremely tight calls because it's a line decision. The major problem with offside seems to me that because the frame speed isn't necessarily fast enough to show where a potentially offside player is at the precise moment the ball is first touched by the player playing the ball to him, there is a degree of subjectivity about which frame is used when the lines are drawn. Which means that onside goals are made to look offside and vice versa.

I'd be happier, though, if the rule was that the goal should stand unless the VAR can clearly show that it was offside.

 

[Chris in London]

Obviously it's a goal.

The attacking team plays in red. Which bit do people not understand?

 

[SWP's back]

Didn’t think the linesman flagged for Walker did he? Would have been left if not surely unless I’ve misinterpreted the Dutch rule.

No, Laporte’s and Mahrez’s.

 

[SWP's back]

wasn't the first one given then ruled out by VAR? in which case one would have stood and the other not, just the other way around

No, both were immediately flagged as offside by the lino’s.

 

[kaz7]

Where are the lines on dipper and rag goals , nowhere , just us time after time

 

[OB1]

Might as well reuse my post of Wolves thread:

That offside decision against LaPorte is a joke, however precisely it has been measured. Indeed measuring offside to that level of precision is the primary joke. In the first instance, decision making by officials needs to be based on something that is possible in real time with the naked eye so that VAR is truly dealing with clear and obvious errors. I'd still bin VAR.

 

[wagonman]

Jeeeeeez!

I have just checked in my sports paper...

Guess what...

Laporte was offside.

Sorted.

JJ

 

[Mike Cledford]

Lots of blues on here with different opinions.

How come the various officials agree with each other so much?

Human nature means that even referees should have some difference of opinion.

Or is everything pre arranged before the.match?

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I agree with this to a point, but the thing about offside is that however you define it, you will always have extremely tight calls because it's a line decision. The major problem with offside seems to me that because the frame speed isn't necessarily fast enough to show where a potentially offside player is at the precise moment the ball is first touched by the player playing the ball to him, there is a degree of subjectivity about which frame is used when the lines are drawn. Which means that onside goals are made to look offside and vice versa.

I'd be happier, though, if the rule was that the goal should stand unless the VAR can clearly show that it was offside.

We can have goal line clearances that get down to millimetres - good 'un Stonesy - and they will apply that to VAR-decided offsides, but there is a big difference between knowing a ball has gone over the line and 'ummin' 'n aaarghin' over whether someone's pubic hair was offside or not (I understand that a goal is legitmate if it comes off that way. The geometry and trigonometry they feed us now isn't satisfactory. There are many instances where it still isn't clear whether a play was off or on. I haven't yet seen a print out from a footy game where a photograph from the side or above shows definitively that a player was offside. Compare the result and deliberations in horse racing, athletics and cycling when those involved are tear-arse-ing to the line and the naked eye can't make a judgement. Within a matter of seconds we have the result - someone's won or it's a dead heat. I can't see why we can't have that in football. All we ever seem to be fed is a view on an angle!