Oleks Zinchenko - 2018/19 Performances

[Neville Kneville]

Pep doesn't use orthodox fullbacks

it's not his game,

Don't be stupid & don't try to be a smartarse.

All his signings for fullback, are fucking fullbacks, & he signed 3 of them.

For fucks sake.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Walkabout Walker a fullback, don't make me laugh, hasn't a clue, Mendy, can't defend for toffee, an out and out wingback, same for Danilo.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

@Dax777 I think Zinchenko is a good midfielder with admirable attitude, but he lacks athleticism of a 'real' fullback, same could be said about Delph. Using a midfielder there ruins the whole idea of fullbacks as athletes capable of sprinting back and forth, creating superiorities in both phases of play.

'Transfer offtop': IMO it would be logical to replace both Delph and Zinchenko by a 'real' homegrown fullback, providing a competition for Mendy and freeing 1 foreign spot at once. Sam Lee has repeatedly mentioned City's interest in Chilwell. If it's true, I can't see Zin staying unless Pep finds the way to use him in midfield.

Unless we try to move Mendy on? Harsh, but if he's never available to play it's a waste of a squad place.

 

[schfc6]

Walkabout Walker a fullback, don't make me laugh, hasn't a clue, Mendy, can't defend for toffee, an out and out wingback, same for Danilo.

All 3 have spent the vast majority of their careers playing full back. Like 90% plus of the games they’ve played in their careers.

 

[schfc6]

What total did Laporte, Ederson and Jesus all get up to before their respective streaks ended?

Wasn’t Ederson 1? We drew his first home game. Laporte will have got to Burnley or Rags?
Jesus didn’t lose in ages.

 

[ctid1894]

Zinchenko has another cracking game last night, he’s definitely getting better defensively and kept Antonio very quiet. He got caught out for the Carroll chance but you could tell he was gutted and couldn’t get to Ederson quick enough to thank him for bailing him out.

A natural fullback will always have better defensive instincts but Zinchenko deserves his shirt at the moment because he’s clearly working just as hard off the pitch to improve as he is on it. I don’t think he’ll stay long term because he needs to be playing in his natural position in midfield and he’ll also need more game time than we can offer when Mendy is fit and/or we buy a natural left back. Will be a shame to eventually lose him but he deserves to be playing in his position in someone’s first team week in week out.

 

[mccity]

Wasn’t Ederson 1? We drew his first home game. Laporte will have got to Burnley or Rags?
Jesus didn’t lose in ages.

I read the tweet incorrectly as unbeaten instead of winning run. My mistake!

 

[Dax777]

Zinchenko has another cracking game last night, he’s definitely getting better defensively and kept Antonio very quiet. He got caught out for the Carroll chance but you could tell he was gutted and couldn’t get to Ederson quick enough to thank him for bailing him out.



A natural fullback will always have better defensive instincts but Zinchenko deserves his shirt at the moment because he’s clearly working just as hard off the pitch to improve as he is on it. I don’t think he’ll stay long term because he needs to be playing in his natural position in midfield and he’ll also need more game time than we can offer when Mendy is fit and/or we buy a natural left back. Will be a shame to eventually lose him but he deserves to be playing in his position in someone’s first team week in week out.

Would they though? Walker makes this very mistake 3-4 times a game. The leftback for Chelsea kept losing Benardo when we beat them 6-0. Frankly, I'm always amused when people talk about imaginary fullbacks who never get beat or lose their man. I haven't seen them.

The kid has been very good.

@Dax777 I think Zinchenko is a good midfielder with admirable attitude, but he lacks athleticism of a 'real' fullback, same could be said about Delph. Using a midfielder there ruins the whole idea of fullbacks as athletes capable of sprinting back and forth, creating superiorities in both phases of play.

'Transfer offtop': IMO it would be logical to replace both Delph and Zinchenko by a 'real' homegrown fullback, providing a competition for Mendy and freeing 1 foreign spot at once. Sam Lee has repeatedly mentioned City's interest in Chilwell. If it's true, I can't see Zin staying unless Pep finds the way to use him in midfield.

City lefbacks the last 10 years:
Garrido
Bridge
Kolarov
Clichy
Mendy
Delph

I only see 1 who was more Athletic, Gael in his first year. Other than that, he is on per or more Athletic than the rest. The claim of lack of athletism always befuddles me: Compared to who? Wan Bissaka or Walker? Sure maybe not. Zabaleta or Azpilicueta? Certainly more than both. And those are 2 legends of the premier league at full back.

I think it's just a mental thing. Too many had convinced themselves he was not a fullback long ago, and they are simply not going to change that opinion.

I mean the guy is performing and the best some can say is, they hope he leaves so he can start somewhere else at his preferred position.

It's quite hillarious to read. Mendy would need some serious performance to win his job back, and yet we are doubting the kid's capabilities? Ok!

 

[mosssideblue]

This lad has won me over big time. Still one or two rough edges that Pep will polish out, but he has impressed of late. Glad he stayed and fancied his chances here

 

[mosssideblue]

Pep said on friday that" he will have a long career,hopefully here",i hope we do keep him,he is learning all the time and i would be happy to have him back up to benny,if benny ever stays fit that is

I would like him to stay and think he will give Mendy some real competition for the shirt