Oleksandr Zinchenko | Joins Arsenal for £30m

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Staying on current salary to sit in the stands. It’s a lack of ambition I don’t want to see in any player associated with the club.

How on earth is staying and wanting to fight for his place a lack of ambition? Was it lack of ambition that made Delph turn down a move to Stoke?
 
How on earth is staying and wanting to fight for his place a lack of ambition? Was it lack of ambition that made Delph turn down a move to Stoke?
Far different to Delph,, he got lucky lets be honest that Mendy got long injury, otherwise doubt he would have got a look in. We also have Danilo and Laporte as well as Delph to play LB, so its not like he is just 1 injury away from playing at LB like Delph was. (as Pep had yet to test Danilo there early in the season + Laporte wasn't here at the time).
 
How on earth is staying and wanting to fight for his place a lack of ambition? Was it lack of ambition that made Delph turn down a move to Stoke?

Exactly. Surely it's the definition of ambition - he wants to fight and become a key part of a trophy winning team. Isn't that kind of the ultimate goal of a footballer?
 
How on earth is staying and wanting to fight for his place a lack of ambition? Was it lack of ambition that made Delph turn down a move to Stoke?

Staying to fight for a place? He won’t get one (major injury crises at the club notwithstanding), he’s not good enough, so in this case he’s being unrealistic rather than ambitious! I can appreciate it might be a fine line, but his own career interests would be best served by going. I mentioned the example of Ben Mee earlier.
 
Staying to fight for a place? He won’t get one (major injury crises at the club notwithstanding), he’s not good enough, so in this case he’s being unrealistic rather than ambitious! I can appreciate it might be a fine line, but his own career interests would be best served by going. I mentioned the example of Ben Mee earlier.

He's 21 not 31. No idea if he'll end up good enough or not, but writing him off at such a young age is the kind of thing Mourinho did with KDB. You'd have thought people would learn not to do that.
 
Staying to fight for a place? He won’t get one (major injury crises at the club notwithstanding), he’s not good enough, so in this case he’s being unrealistic rather than ambitious! I can appreciate it might be a fine line, but his own career interests would be best served by going. I mentioned the example of Ben Mee earlier.
He played his fair share of games last season so why will that suddenly change this year? Especially if he continues to improve and progress?

The kid obviously has a lot more faith and confidence in his ability than a few of our supporters.

I like him,he's refreshing in more ways than one.
 
How on earth is staying and wanting to fight for his place a lack of ambition? Was it lack of ambition that made Delph turn down a move to Stoke?
I'm glad he's staying,as much potential as the 2 two getting in the team at the moment and a great attitude on top. Perfect type to develop. Some people will take any fuckin signing for some reason .
 
Don't like the aggression on this thread. The kid wants to stay and help us win trophies.

Who knows if he'll develop into a top player but Pep has always praised his dedication and attitude.

I'm glad he's staying and hope he gets some game time.
 


Pre-season vs a midfield of Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum and playing in a team largely made up of kids. Absolutely running the show, and yet people are writing him off aged 21.

The lad has the ambition to play for us, and yet people are making judgement on a 21 year old being played out of position in his debut Premier League season.

He's earned a chance. If he ends up not good enough then so be it.
 
Don't like the aggression on this thread. The kid wants to stay and help us win trophies.

Who knows if he'll develop into a top player but Pep has always praised his dedication and attitude.

I'm glad he's staying and hope he gets some game time.

Bony and Mangala both displayed an admiral attitude, as did Joe. Unfortunately it takes more than attitude to be succesful in the game. He only managed 14 games last season and with our squad arguably stronger this season, particularly in the area he featured for us it will be unlikely he gets more game time this time out.

It is great he wants to stay and fight but I think most are just being realistic in recognising that it is almost certainly going to be a losing battle.
 
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