Olivia’s killer guilty - Minimum of 42 years

Asa's Heart said:
I was just going to post similar. The stereotyping is classic. I now live in Crosby and have done for some time. I grew up in Cheetham Hill until 10 and then upgraded to Moss Side, have been badly stabbed and shot at a number of times as a kid and was no saint at all. Some of the lads I grew up with are no longer with us and some are still doing long stretches. One was shot to death in front of us many years ago when we were playing pool. I have no idea where some of the folks on here think they are living. Poverty and criminal behaviour is in all large cities. I’ve worked in guns and gangs teams previously and with the police all over the North West. I almost spat my coffee out reading the post about kids from Liverpool going to Formby and Ormskirk. Fucking hell that is just anti social behaviour and happens everywhere. Anyone been to Formby? It’s full of footballers and closes about 8pm. Ormskirk isn’t far behind. Maybe they were looking for Kenny Dalgleish or Hanson. They live out that way towards Birkdale.
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My misses teaches in Crosby at St Michaels High school. I've lived in Maghull for over 10 years now (just down the road from Ormskirk.) I was homesick big time when I first moved there, but I have to say its a great place to live.The only issue I have is the Liverpool fans are unbearable but find the Everton fans fine. The only trouble I find is anti social behaviour and lads from Kirkby coming down causing a bit of grief. I'm proud to come from Denton and had a great upbringing and it used to be a great community spirit with plenty of boozers. I go back regularly to see my mum and dad and its a patch of its former self. I don't recognise the place anymore. Its such a shame.
 
Asa's Heart said:
The little girl was a scousers. Her mum is a scouser. The two other innocent women murdered, one stabbed and the other shot to death were scousers. Some times the football tribalism isn’t the thing to bring up when bigger and more important things are at play…. We have our fair share of problems with gun and knife crime in Manchester too….
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mate, my wife is a scouser. it was a joke (and occasionally, the idea of sending her to rwanda sounds like a cracking idea)
 
Asa's Heart said:
I was just going to post similar. The stereotyping is classic. I now live in Crosby and have done for some time. I grew up in Cheetham Hill until 10 and then upgraded to Moss Side, have been badly stabbed and shot at a number of times as a kid and was no saint at all. Some of the lads I grew up with are no longer with us and some are still doing long stretches. One was shot to death in front of us many years ago when we were playing pool. I have no idea where some of the folks on here think they are living. Poverty and criminal behaviour is in all large cities. I’ve worked in guns and gangs teams previously and with the police all over the North West. I almost spat my coffee out reading the post about kids from Liverpool going to Formby and Ormskirk. Fucking hell that is just anti social behaviour and happens everywhere. Anyone been to Formby? It’s full of footballers and closes about 8pm. Ormskirk isn’t far behind. Maybe they were looking for Kenny Dalgleish or Hanson. They live out that way towards Birkdale.
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Liverpool has a police force, council and criminal empire all in one cesspit organisation. It will never change
 
One thing I struggle with with these criminal types is that they rarely seem to use the proceeds of crime well. They still live on the same estates that they did before they got involved in crimes. Obviously Mr Big, the brains behind the operations may be Sat in his Marbella Villa reading the Times as I type but the Footsoldiers just never seem to better themselves and often spend half their life in jail. I just don’t understand the point of it.

Liverpool police should be knocking down doors and arresting people every day, making life miserable for those who partake in crime, however minor, until someone coughs.

If they don’t get their man soon then the the person in charge will be removed quickly and replaced with someone from outside.
 
Mariosfireworks said:
Someone knows who did it, I dont care about all this grassing business, if I knew someone who shot a 9 year old child I would stick them in straight away, let gangsters kill each other, fair enough,but when an innocent child gets killed its gone to far
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They have a name as it's been painted over the Huyton area since it happened almost. But is it the right one and is the person still in the country even.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
One thing I struggle with with these criminal types is that they rarely seem to use the proceeds of crime well. They still live on the same estates that they did before they got involved in crimes. Obviously Mr Big, the brains behind the operations may be Sat in his Marbella Villa reading the Times as I type but the Footsoldiers just never seem to better themselves and often spend half their life in jail. I just don’t understand the point of it.
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Lifestyle is still better than working in a factory, the kudos that goes with their role, and being involved makes them feel important.

Money, status, self-worth and purpose - the things that motivate most of us professionally.
 
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