One Game at a Time

trublue55 said:
rotation is necessary as a result of injury, suspension, tactical change and/ or loss of form. never, saving for a future game, ffs players can and do even get injured in training, what is the point in resting someone, who could still get injured prior to the next games.

You do realise that playing a full blooded 90 min game one one day and then another one 48 hours later means players are at more risk to injury. Muscles are weaker and overworked, your energy is lower.

Why do you think Jack Wilshere has been out for a long time? He was as Wenger put it "in the red zone" his body was weaker and overworked as a result of overplaying thus he was more prone to an injury.
 
Trust in Roberto, there are so many factors that we cannot possibly know about, Balo might have had a niggle as maybe Aguero.

Roberto will deliver the title have faith.
 
trublue55 said:
If we obviously (to Roberto) had players who were tired, struggling with form, needed a rest etc no problem, but this wasnt for that, it was rotation because a few super-fit athletes were deemed unsuitable of performing twice in 48 hours. I really dont buy it. Just because others often do it, and often get away with it, us included, doesnt make it right, and despite the proximity of the Liverpool fixture, the next game isnt until the rags 5 whole days later.

You're basically saying you know better than Mancini about recovery time needed, which players need a rest and which players need game time to get up to speed for when Yaya goes off to the ACN. I don't buy it.
 
If we beat scouse n scum then Bobby will have done a brilliant job. Now rotate that!
 
Berkovic_blue said:
trublue55 said:
If we obviously (to Roberto) had players who were tired, struggling with form, needed a rest etc no problem, but this wasnt for that, it was rotation because a few super-fit athletes were deemed unsuitable of performing twice in 48 hours. I really dont buy it. Just because others often do it, and often get away with it, us included, doesnt make it right, and despite the proximity of the Liverpool fixture, the next game isnt until the rags 5 whole days later.

You're basically saying you know better than Mancini about recovery time needed, which players need a rest and which players need game time to get up to speed for when Yaya goes off to the ACN. I don't buy it.

Of course i dont know better than Mancini......., but he is human, and does make mistakes, and he is well paid to hopefully make correct decisions

You would have a valid point about rest if Roberto actually rested them, but to name them on the bench, and to use them, tends to imply, that he did not think they needed a rest, but that he preferred to save them for Liverpool game.

Sorry it backfired on 2 counts, one the result, and 2 they didnt get their rest.
 
awest said:
If we beat scouse n scum then Bobby will have done a brilliant job. Now rotate that!

Would you not sooner have beaten Sunderland, and still been looking forward to beating "scouse and scum". Surely you are not suggesting the team selection, and ultimate defeat at Sunderland, has in any way helped us in our quest for 2 victories in our next 2 games.

Anyway wont we be playing a severely rotated side on Sunday?, as at least half of them will need a rest for the next match, which is only 3 days later.

This rotation can become addictive, perhaps we will never see our "best 11" again?
 
trublue55 said:
You would have a valid point about rest if Roberto actually rested them, but to name them on the bench, and to use them, tends to imply, that he did not think they needed a rest, but that he preferred to save them for Liverpool game.
You're not seriously saying you think playing part of a game equates the same amount of fatigue and recovery time as playing a full game are you?
 
sweep said:
trublue55 said:
You would have a valid point about rest if Roberto actually rested them, but to name them on the bench, and to use them, tends to imply, that he did not think they needed a rest, but that he preferred to save them for Liverpool game.
You're not seriously saying you think playing part of a game equates the same amount of fatigue and recovery time as playing a full game are you?

didnt realise you had to play full 90 minutes to run the risk of injury to "tired" muscles / limbs.
FFS, of course it doesnt, but are you seriously suggesting that Roberto always intended to give the 3 subs used game time? Of course not, he thought he could win the game with the 11 he started with, he realised he was wrong, and changed it.

it was a tactical gamble, that backfired on this occasion. the decision wasnt made out of a physical necessity to rest players, if it was, why use them?
 
trublue55 said:
sweep said:
trublue55 said:
You would have a valid point about rest if Roberto actually rested them, but to name them on the bench, and to use them, tends to imply, that he did not think they needed a rest, but that he preferred to save them for Liverpool game.
You're not seriously saying you think playing part of a game equates the same amount of fatigue and recovery time as playing a full game are you?

didnt realise you had to play full 90 minutes to run the risk of injury to "tired" muscles / limbs.
FFS, of course it doesnt, but are you seriously suggesting that Roberto always intended to give the 3 subs used game time? Of course not, he thought he could win the game with the 11 he started with, he realised he was wrong, and changed it.

it was a tactical gamble, that backfired on this occasion. the decision wasnt made out of a physical necessity to rest players, if it was, why use them?

Or another way of putting it, the players who got taken off simply weren't performing as he expected them to. It's not about realising he was wrong, that sounds ridiculously patronising from you.

If you thought the starting XI yesterday wasn't good enough to beat them then I really don't know what to say to you. Mancini simply had to react during the game because they weren't performing well enough on the day and he wanted the win.

Still curious as to why you had to start an identical thread on this as well.
 
Other supporters are starting to criticise their managers for not rotating enough.

Expect a lot of clubs to burn out later in the season.
 

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