Open borders

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

We should have completely open borders. Humans moving country for a better life are no different to those of us that move to a posher bit of town for the same. Eventually if you get too many bellends coming over the country will be crap so they'll stop coming - it'll naturally balance itself out

 

[BrianW]

Why are 'open borders' OK between Lancashire and Yorkshire, but not between England and France?

Where do you draw the line? Should each parish have controlled borders? I mean, what about the cnuts coming into Bury from Radcliffe? Let alone Scousers!

There were never absolute open borders even within Schengen, which we never joined. It's just an obsession that some people who hate foreigners have latched onto. Actually, we would probably have more control if we were in Schengen as we would be in collaboration with the other countries involved and have access to the database.

 

[Grassland Blue]

We should have completely open borders. Humans moving country for a better life are no different to those of us that move to a posher bit of town for the same. Eventually if you get too many bellends coming over the country will be crap so they'll stop coming - it'll naturally balance itself out

Everyone would have to carry some form of I.D. though.
Any dodgy characters would be weeded out that way.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Everyone would have to carry some form of I.D. though.
Any dodgy characters would be weeded out that way.

I personally don't have an issue with that, but as a nation we are resistant. Ridiculous really considering we all attach smart devices to ourselves that harvest levels of data that the stazi or as could only dream of!

 

[BrianW]

Everyone would have to carry some form of I.D. though.
Any dodgy characters would be weeded out that way.

I'm all for ID cards. They would cut out a whole load of abuse, and it would solve the voting issue in a fair way. What's more, when we eventually see sense and rejoin the EU, they could be passports within the EU, meaning many people would never need a passport as such.

Again, ID cards would stop a lot of the immigration that people find offensive as you would not be able to get a job or access to services without one. But, as so often in this country, people will the ends but not the means.

 

[urban genie]

ID cards would only work and be approved of by the majortiy if bar name, dob, photo, nationality nothing else was present and they had no chip or digital information on them.

every time they have been sugested there has been strong opposition on dara sharing fears (though everyone freely gives up their data now to twats like facebook and twitter)

 

[Grassland Blue]

ID cards would only work and be approved of by the majortiy if bar name, dob, photo, nationality nothing else was present and they had no chip or digital information on them.

every time they have been sugested there has been strong opposition on dara sharing fears (though everyone freely gives up their data now to twats like facebook and twitter)

Your plastic driving licence carries data about your driving offences, so why should an I.D. cardc arrying details of somebody's criminal activities (or not) be a problem?
Unless of course that person is a criminal....

 

[metalblue]

In theory? No. Governments need to be able to plan for their housing, education, health and well-being of anyone arriving. Else they end up failing those arriving and those already here. Ideally you’d want a situation where the cap on net migration was set at a local level.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

In theory? No. Governments need to be able to plan for their housing, education, health and well-being of anyone arriving. Else they end up failing those arriving and those already here. Ideally you’d want a situation where the cap on net migration was set at a local level.

In one paragraph you have summed up the failure of the Conservative Government. Well done!

 

[bluethrunthru]

Everyone would have to carry some form of I.D. though.
Any dodgy characters would be weeded out that way.

would it though? Many EU member states require you to carry the official ID with you ( technically as a Brit you don't have one so when visiting France you are supposed to have your passport or a photocopy of it on you at all time ) - are you saying that none of those countries have dodgy citizens because of id cards?