Open Letter on Season Tickets and Pricing | Club announce price freeze on "general admission season tickets & PL match tickets" for next season (p163)

dannybcity said:
Well they sent a response to the BBC so at the very least they've done the first two.
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Some lower level marketing person has then - whoopee do.

The club are not changing their ticket price policy because a few FOCs write a letter.

It pisses me off as much as everyone else but it's just a cold hard fact.

I guarantee when season ticket prices are announced for next season it'll be the same thing as the last god knows how many years - a cheeky 20 quid added to everyone's ticket. Very strategically done as it's an amount that most people will just pay, but compounded over thousands of tickets and over years and years makes them millions and millions millions.

They do not give a fuck what you, or me, or anyone else thinks about that.

Our leadership have made some great decisions on the pitch obviously, but are for the most part a load of detached gazillionaires who put up with the fans because they have to, not because they give a shit about them. Just like every other big club.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Some lower level marketing person has then - whoopee do.

The club are not changing their ticket price policy because a few FOCs write a letter.

It pisses me off as much as everyone else but it's just a cold hard fact.

I guarantee when season ticket prices are announced for next season it'll be the same thing as the last god knows how many years - a cheeky 20 quid added to everyone's ticket. Very strategically done as it's an amount that most people will just pay, but compounded over thousands of tickets and over years and years makes them millions and millions millions.

They do not give a fuck what you, or me, or anyone else thinks about that.

Our leadership have made some great decisions on the pitch obviously, but are for the most part a load of detached gazillionaires who put up with the fans because they have to, not because they give a shit about them. Just like every other big club.
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I don’t disagree with your sentiment but the increase in SC prices is so small it probably doesn’t even reach £1m and that’s the problem. The more seats they can sell at inflated prices the better hence why no new SC are released and why the club doesn’t care if a few people drop off. A £500 SC equates to just over £26 per game, yet it will be sold as a £40 seat if it’s match by match, an increase of £266, far more than they dare increase a SC. Every local kid under 16 has pretty much only known our success and the rags decline. Throw in the likes of Aguero, Silva, Vinny, Foden, Haaland etc and these are the fans that should be knocking down the door to attend. Yet they can’t at the expense of a tourist who won’t be around in a few years. Where have all our Bosnian fans gone or the Algerians? Get the locals hooked and they are fans for ever.
 
I'm sure a board meeting has already taken place, including Khaldoon via video link. Or if it hasn't yet, it will be penciled in for next week.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Whilst growing the club to the biggest commercially in the world, winning 7 league titles, 6 league cups, 2 FA cups, 1 UCL, 2 charity shields, one club world cup and one UEFA super cup. Charlatan indeed.
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As I said commercially (and football wise, I should have added to make it clearer) we are world class (thanks PEP) but from a fan treatment basis we are fucking shite, absolutely fucking shite. With Khaldoon the words are great, but the actions are not. Sorriano we barely hear from, he gives even less of a shit about legacy fans - and indeed new fans, no new season tickets, which maximises tourist attendance - fucking brilliant. Just because you obviously didn’t get what I was saying my OP was about FAN TREATMENT
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Some lower level marketing person has then - whoopee do.

The club are not changing their ticket price policy because a few FOCs write a letter.

It pisses me off as much as everyone else but it's just a cold hard fact.

I guarantee when season ticket prices are announced for next season it'll be the same thing as the last god knows how many years - a cheeky 20 quid added to everyone's ticket. Very strategically done as it's an amount that most people will just pay, but compounded over thousands of tickets and over years and years makes them millions and millions millions.

They do not give a fuck what you, or me, or anyone else thinks about that.

Our leadership have made some great decisions on the pitch obviously, but are for the most part a load of detached gazillionaires who put up with the fans because they have to, not because they give a shit about them. Just like every other big club.
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Well Johnny you are certainly bursting a few balloons today;-)
 
There's two people who can make the letter requests happen, Mansour and Khaldoon. But will they interfere with the running of the club, and force changes to what has already been agreed, and is ready to be implemented?
 
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BringBackSwales said:
As I said commercially (and football wise, I should have added to make it clearer) we are world class (thanks PEP) but from a fan treatment basis we are fucking shite, absolutely fucking shite. With Khaldoon the words are great, but the actions are not. Sorriano we barely hear from, he gives even less of a shit about legacy fans - and indeed new fans, no new season tickets, which maximises tourist attendance - fucking brilliant. Just because you obviously didn’t get what I was saying my OP was about FAN TREATMENT
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Fair enough. I've been a ST holder since 1990 and don't share the same opionion on fan treatment, but there you go.
 
BringBackSwales said:
Were you in Istanbul? Tens of thousands of City fans were treated like shit, including me and my 2 kids. Not a fucking dickie bird from our club, fucking disgusting, cuntish in fact
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Yeah that was shite at the end and agree more should have been said. The final should have never been there to be honest and I blame UEFA rather than the club.

Was also in Porto paid for by the club just to level off the point that they don’t care.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Yeah that was shite at the end and agree more should have been said. The final should have never been there to be honest and I blame UEFA rather than the club.

Was also in Porto paid for by the club just to level off the point that they don’t care.
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Yes I was in Porto but no I didn’t go on the club travel. When you say the club should have said MORE on the matter of Istanbul they didn’t say anything
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Some lower level marketing person has then - whoopee do.

The club are not changing their ticket price policy because a few FOCs write a letter.

It pisses me off as much as everyone else but it's just a cold hard fact.

I guarantee when season ticket prices are announced for next season it'll be the same thing as the last god knows how many years - a cheeky 20 quid added to everyone's ticket. Very strategically done as it's an amount that most people will just pay, but compounded over thousands of tickets and over years and years makes them millions and millions millions.

They do not give a fuck what you, or me, or anyone else thinks about that.

Our leadership have made some great decisions on the pitch obviously, but are for the most part a load of detached gazillionaires who put up with the fans because they have to, not because they give a shit about them. Just like every other big club.
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Thanks for the feedback.
 
Bournemouth Blue said:
I can see both sides be honest, a few years ago we (City fans) were critical of our noisy neighbours in Salford Docks for attracting the Posh Spice and her toy boy fans from the south east. Now City have built a following based on a great decade or so of results, so obviously there are people who want to experience the Etihad and watch the team. I have only been to the Etihad once, before the south stand was extended, but would love to go again, but most Mancs would class me as a tourist, even though I have been to hundreds of games at Maine Road long before many of you were born. The club is arguably far more sympathetic to the regulars than most other top six clubs, maybe Liverpool and Everton aside, and whilst I recognise the cost of living to earnings ratio differs across the country, most of the hyper-rich fans are in London, hence Arsenal, Spuds, Fulham, Chelsea fans can inflate season ticket prices faster than most northern clubs. I do sympathise, City should ring-fence a proportion of seats for regulars, but also hold back a smaller proportion for others who just want an occasional experience. At least with a 60k plus capacity, surely it is possible to accommodate locals for a discount. If I travelled up to Manchester from the south coast, it would mean one or two nights in a hotel, plus the train tickets etc. The one-off ticket price, if it was possible to actually get one, would be the least of my financial concerns. Sadly, there are enough people who grab tickets because they are rich, the same applies to all forms of entertainment. I can’t blame the club for raking in revenues from tourists like me, but if you care to read my post in full, I have been a loyal City fan most of my life, 62 years and counting, and I am 70 next week.
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MiniMax quotas for different demographic/financial groups may be a way of balancing the financial/affordability equation.

Particular arrangements should be made for financially hard pressed 'young' local fans who are the next generation and the genesis of all future generations.

High prices for the 'one off's' of which there will be 1000s for as long as we're successful.

Budget/affordable prices for regular/youngsters of which there are many, many 1000s who will support the club through thin & thick.

These guys are future generation which become the core, bedrock of the club......
" Come what may "

Where there's a will there's a solution !!
 
Brilliant effort from City Matters - and Alex seems to try and do the right thing for all of us - thank you.

But I also read the cynicism, which I sadly share. 'Our' club has long been an asset of a Gulf State - and I am grateful to them for their investment and professionalism. It has allowed us to enjoy over a decade of triumphs that few of us FOCs could even dream of.

In the first years of their ownership, I think they largely got the balance right between the legacy they had inherited, and the ambitions they planned. Personally, like top flight football across the Premier League, the balance has flipped in the last few years, and with the pressures of FFP and all the other shite the EPL, FA and UEFA invent to safeguard the historic cartel, I think the reality of football today is broadly utterly shite for the legacy fan.

Tourists, VAR, Half & Half Scarves, away ticket allocations, annual season card uplifts, reduction in discounts, yet more tunnel clubs, the light shows, the commercialisation of absolutely everything, is sadly the inevitable future of football.

However, I do think the legacy of the connection to Manchester and the unique experience of being at a game (which I sadly think is now only found away, like at Leicester, Luton and hopefully tomorrow at Orient) - is worth fighting for. We may have to one day surrender to the tidal wave of tourists and day trippers - but I love this Club too much not to fight - which is why I fully support these efforts and yet again, would argue that we need to urgently crack on with setting up a properly democratic and independent Supporters Trust.
 
GrumpyLegacyFan said:
Brilliant effort from City Matters - and Alex seems to try and do the right thing for all of us - thank you.

But I also read the cynicism, which I sadly share. 'Our' club has long been an asset of a Gulf State - and I am grateful to them for their investment and professionalism. It has allowed us to enjoy over a decade of triumphs that few of us FOCs could even dream of.

In the first years of their ownership, I think they largely got the balance right between the legacy they had inherited, and the ambitions they planned. Personally, like top flight football across the Premier League, the balance has flipped in the last few years, and with the pressures of FFP and all the other shite the EPL, FA and UEFA invent to safeguard the historic cartel, I think the reality of football today is broadly utterly shite for the legacy fan.

Tourists, VAR, Half & Half Scarves, away ticket allocations, annual season card uplifts, reduction in discounts, yet more tunnel clubs, the light shows, the commercialisation of absolutely everything, is sadly the inevitable future of football.

However, I do think the legacy of the connection to Manchester and the unique experience of being at a game (which I sadly think is now only found away, like at Leicester, Luton and hopefully tomorrow at Orient) - is worth fighting for. We may have to one day surrender to the tidal wave of tourists and day trippers - but I love this Club too much not to fight - which is why I fully support these efforts and yet again, would argue that we need to urgently crack on with setting up a properly democratic and independent Supporters Trust.
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Didn't realise we are an asset of a gulf state.
 
wearethesouthstand said:
Tim

I know many branch secretaries all of whom say the same things, fed up of random non-City fans in the seats round them, the cost of football now, feeling marginalised by the club in favour of tourists/ day trippers and groups of awa fans such as Feyenoord and Bruges doing what they want in our ends with stewards throwing out City fans if they complain about it - you may be surprised the FG/season ticket issue is very big because if this isn’t reversed the generational links will be broken. They all say they are getting 2-4 away tickets per game and then find a group from chicago or Hollywood next to them with people who have literally joined that branch just before simply to get a ticket.
This week alone I went to 2 branches and met 50-60 at each branch who are all 100% for the letter and say if the OSC committee spoke up more (they don’t see why they are so quiet all the time) then the OSC members would completely back that stance.

That’s obviously a matter for the OSC committee but I can absolutely guarantee you mate we went to see some branches to take the temperature in the room on all issues and the fans are happy for it to escalate.
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I agree with a lot of what you say mate and you will see that if you look through my posts. As a member of 1894, I saw your pics from an OSC Branch event and i was impressed. You are welcome toour Branch as we've discussed. I just don't think the badges issue is a big deal. Also, the lads / ladies who run Branches who attend the OSC Meetings are very interested in ticket prices but not all the politics that sometimes appears on here and social media, in my personal experience. FWIW. the Feyenord fans wished they had obstructed another Blue when their drinks when flying on the East Stand concourse (total accident of course).

A lot of people who don't go to midweek Cup games don' t want the inconvenience. I offer to pay for my brother's ticket but he chooses not to go. Naturally, Blues will be sat / stood next to people they don't know for some games and where these are overseas fans I try to encourage them to sing our songs. I'm not on about you but the recent focus on tourists in social media probably contributed to the Blue on Blue violence / handbags at Arsenal (based on witness reports). I think this labelling of fellow Blues as tourists is a dangerous thing and it is usually uttered by people who don't go to many games or are not from Manchester. I would like 1894 and City Matters and the OSC to take a stand against this. Especially in the light of the abuse Bunny Shaw was subjected to.

As I have said many times, the away games I go to I use my own points. That said, the 2 away tickets we get for a Branch of 240 isn't a big deal IMHO. In fact, City seem to have cut back a bit on allocations for European aways lately and we've seen our ends not sold out for the first time in years. I would rather have Blues packing out on end.
 
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