OS Opinion Survey

[markbmcfc]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

 

[sweep]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

Horseshit! There's barely any noise from the south stand at league games anyway, dispersing the few singers into twice as much space will never improve it. That's the main reason why this one end nonsense needs knocking on the head, it makes things worse rather than better.

 

[harrogateblue]

Now the excuse is we have to test it at the right game. FFS mate, we have had it at the biggest club tournament in the world, if you can't get it for that then I'm sorry it ain't gonny happen.
Have the club not learnt the lessons of the debacle of the North Stand/Family Stand, a shamblolic mess of moving people who had been there for years.
I'm sorry but an "experiment" for 2 or 3 years is not on.
The club are potentially going to move people who have chosen mind you, to sit in Level 3 because of, view, friends, craic, laugh and all round banter to accomodate poxy visiting fans and a singing section that doesn't sing when they have been given two "experiments" to do so.
Now where are those people in Level 3 going to be moved to? The South Stand where they will inevitably be required to stand. Yeah, great move, have 3000 disgruntled/pissed off Blues in an area of the ground they do not desire to be whilst they see a ragtag bunch of arseholes sitting in the prime area of the ground where they used to be.
Not on City and it's never going to be right.
As for the rest of the Level 3 who are going to have to suffer various visiting teams angelic apostles then they aren't going to be happy either.
Leave it well alone, you tried it and no one can say you didn't, however the evidence was clear in both sound and vision.
Epic fail.

 

[Matty]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

I don't agree with your argument.

Also testign it at a league game is problematic. Seasoncard hodlers have, upfront, purchased a ticket for each home game, and they did so in the knowledge that they would be sat in a certain location. The club could well find themselve sin a touch of bother if they uprooted fans to an inferior seat months after they'd purchased their ticket. The seasoncard holder can legitimately claim they'd got a reasonable right to expect to be sat in their allocated seat for all 19 home games when they purchased their ticket. To change this after the fact could open the club up to miss-selling claims. I'm no legal expert, but I'm sure City wouldnt really want to risk that, at the very least the publicity would not be positive.

 

[The Pink Panther]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

I don't agree with your argument.

Also testign it at a league game is problematic. Seasoncard hodlers have, upfront, purchased a ticket for each home game, and they did so in the knowledge that they would be sat in a certain location. The club could well find themselve sin a touch of bother if they uprooted fans to an inferior seat months after they'd purchased their ticket. The seasoncard holder can legitimately claim they'd got a reasonable right to expect to be sat in their allocated seat for all 19 home games when they purchased their ticket. To change this after the fact could open the club up to miss-selling claims. I'm no legal expert, but I'm sure City wouldnt really want to risk that, at the very least the publicity would not be positive.

Don't forget that a number of us EL3'ers are in cup schemes which we thought guaranteed our seats and we're already pretty pissed off about being launched out for the BM game and some for the Villareal game

 

[Matty]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

I don't agree with your argument.

Also testign it at a league game is problematic. Seasoncard hodlers have, upfront, purchased a ticket for each home game, and they did so in the knowledge that they would be sat in a certain location. The club could well find themselve sin a touch of bother if they uprooted fans to an inferior seat months after they'd purchased their ticket. The seasoncard holder can legitimately claim they'd got a reasonable right to expect to be sat in their allocated seat for all 19 home games when they purchased their ticket. To change this after the fact could open the club up to miss-selling claims. I'm no legal expert, but I'm sure City wouldnt really want to risk that, at the very least the publicity would not be positive.

Don't forget that a number of us EL3'ers are in cup schemes which we thought guaranteed our seats and we're already pretty pissed off about being launched out for the BM game and some for the Villareal game

True, although I thought they caveated cup ticket purchases by saying you (not specifically you, moreso everyone) might not guaranteed your own seat for the cup games. League games should be guaranteed, it's a reasonable expectation.

 

[Vic]

The club had said they'd do a survey after each experimental game.

I suspect the delay in issuing the survey was because they had second thoughts about paying for a survey to tell them what they know - "epic fail"!

 

[markbmcfc]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

I don't agree with your argument.

Also testign it at a league game is problematic. Seasoncard hodlers have, upfront, purchased a ticket for each home game, and they did so in the knowledge that they would be sat in a certain location. The club could well find themselve sin a touch of bother if they uprooted fans to an inferior seat months after they'd purchased their ticket. The seasoncard holder can legitimately claim they'd got a reasonable right to expect to be sat in their allocated seat for all 19 home games when they purchased their ticket. To change this after the fact could open the club up to miss-selling claims. I'm no legal expert, but I'm sure City wouldnt really want to risk that, at the very least the publicity would not be positive.

I don't disagree with any of that, im not advocating that what I said needs to be done, im saying that the two games they have tested it, there have been plausible excuses as to why the atmosphere was poor without getting to the South Stand situation.

Im merely stating that they can't really gurantee its success or failure unless it was a league game, which they won't do, nor do I think they should do it without consulation and voting for those directly affected, so its a pointless topic really.

 

[The Pink Panther]

This is pointless unless they test it at the right game.

There are reasons why the atmosphere was poor against Villareal and Bayern. Villareal, we went 1-0 down so quickly and Bayern - we knew the result wasn't in our hands. It wasn't great until Napoli scored but after that it was silent.

It needs to be tested at a league game before an accurate assessment can be made.

I don't agree with your argument.

Also testign it at a league game is problematic. Seasoncard hodlers have, upfront, purchased a ticket for each home game, and they did so in the knowledge that they would be sat in a certain location. The club could well find themselve sin a touch of bother if they uprooted fans to an inferior seat months after they'd purchased their ticket. The seasoncard holder can legitimately claim they'd got a reasonable right to expect to be sat in their allocated seat for all 19 home games when they purchased their ticket. To change this after the fact could open the club up to miss-selling claims. I'm no legal expert, but I'm sure City wouldnt really want to risk that, at the very least the publicity would not be positive.

I don't disagree with any of that, im not advocating that what I said needs to be done, im saying that the two games they have tested it, there have been plausible excuses as to why the atmosphere was poor without getting to the South Stand situation.

Im merely stating that they can't really gurantee its success or failure unless it was a league game, which they won't do, nor do I think they should do it without consulation and voting for those directly affected, so its a pointless topic really.

Surely going 1-0 down to Villareal should have galvanised the South Stand into getting behind the team?

 

[markbmcfc]

I don't agree with your argument.

Also testign it at a league game is problematic. Seasoncard hodlers have, upfront, purchased a ticket for each home game, and they did so in the knowledge that they would be sat in a certain location. The club could well find themselve sin a touch of bother if they uprooted fans to an inferior seat months after they'd purchased their ticket. The seasoncard holder can legitimately claim they'd got a reasonable right to expect to be sat in their allocated seat for all 19 home games when they purchased their ticket. To change this after the fact could open the club up to miss-selling claims. I'm no legal expert, but I'm sure City wouldnt really want to risk that, at the very least the publicity would not be positive.

I don't disagree with any of that, im not advocating that what I said needs to be done, im saying that the two games they have tested it, there have been plausible excuses as to why the atmosphere was poor without getting to the South Stand situation.

Im merely stating that they can't really gurantee its success or failure unless it was a league game, which they won't do, nor do I think they should do it without consulation and voting for those directly affected, so its a pointless topic really.

Surely going 1-0 down to Villareal should have galvanised the South Stand into getting behind the team?

You've been going long enough to know it doesnt always happen like that Rob.