Oscar Bobb

Flip him to Palace in a player plus cash deal for Wharton . They get Bobb and about £50m, we get Wharton. Everybody happy except every other Club in the League and the Red Media.
 
Stoned Rose said:
This is Manchester City mate. An elite club at the top of the tree striving for trophies. We haven’t got time for fucking about. You either come in and make an impact and/or show serious potential to do so, or we get someone else who will.

That’s not harsh, it’s reality.

Bobb hasn’t shown enough. Imo he’s very similar to how Macatee faired last season. Bags and bags of ability but doesn’t back himself to take his opportunity by the scruff of the neck. Doesn’t have that eye of the tiger. Not quite “ready” mentally.

Needs a loan.
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That poster won't be happy until we have a starting 11 all made up from academy lads.
It's a nice thought but doesn't half skew his opinions of players.
 
Shame as his injury has taken its toll sometimes timing is a bitch, now of an age when he needs minutes so needs to be very carful where he goes even step down a level to prove himself
To me he’s lost his confidence and seems sacred of making a mistake become hesitant needs to rediscover his joy of bearing a man

If he realises his potential then he could one day return
 
I was one of Oscar Bobb's biggest fans in the youth team and I 100% believe he was in line for a breakthrough campaign last year before the injury, however since his recovery he's clearly off it very rusty which has affected his confidence he also isn't as aggressive in attacking.
His decision making this season has also been extremely poor if we're going to be truthful, when before the injury it looked like probably the biggest strength he had for a kid of his age.

Bobb turns 23 before our next pre-season starts and although he was our young great hope at the start of last season, we've honestly moved on with big improvements like Cherki and Reijnders plus Mukasa and Reigan Heskey are breaking through.
It all seems harsh but it's a harsh sport and at nearly 23 years of age, Bobb urgently needs experience that he's simply not going to get here.

Personally despite me highly rating him in our youths I think he's honestly been our worst player going forward, it's not close even Rico Lewis has looked better in advanced roles when given the nod.
Despite the hate Savinho has consistently received this campaign, Bobb has clearly been miles off even him when given the chance and is also a year older.

As much as I'm disappointed you can't hold sentiment on previous efforts you need to be ruthless, Pep will do that and that's why he's the best he makes those hard decisions.
It's definitely time for Oscar to be proving himself on the pitch I'm sure with the right move he will eventually do that, with a buyback and sell on fee depending on what level he improves to it'll be a good move for all parties.

Again he's going to be 23 next summer so a loan is a poor choice as he'll be 24 the summer after, he was probably already a bit behind where he should've been before the injury.
His form before the injury banked him some credit but meant the pressure was going to immediately be on him, he's not managed to be anywhere near his pre injury form or inventiveness he's in serious need of game time.
Chances are getting more slimmer for him as our season goes on whether centrally or out wide, with Semenyo potentially incoming this January he's firmly going to be last choice everywhere.

That's without Reigan Heskey or Ryan McAidoo out wide, without Divine Mukasa or Finley Gorman (when back) and Charlie Gray who can play centrally, people need to realise Oscar Bobb isn't a youth player anymore, all those I mentioned are a lot younger in footballing terms.

That's all without mentioning Echeverri (out on loan) or any other young players we might sign, yes it's a shame about the injury ruining his chances last year but for me Oscar Bobb needs to move on, just for the sake of his own career and the sooner he does that the better it should be for him.
 
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its a Barm said:
My opinion is the lad has had plenty of chances to impress and make an impression but sadly he hasn't done that, a move is best for all.
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Frustrating one really as he does appear to have the required skill set. However, fate having conspired against him he has entered a valley period and is not progressing as we might have expected. A move might be best for all concerned at this stage.
 
oldius said:
I will be disappointed if he goes because I believe he has the potential to be a world-class player. Nevertheless, at this moment, he is not going to replace Erling, Cherki, Foden, or Doku, and probably not Savinho either, and we have McAidoo, Heskey, and the Samba boys coming up on the rails - all technical and very physical - and he needs game time to bring out that potential. A loan or a sale with a buy-back seems fair to him, and fair to the club.
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It'd be great if we could get a loan, but some issues is sometimes the other club just doesnt play the player, so sometimes risky, just have to make it ironclad and clear he has to play and im for it.

I think clubs are less reluctant to do a buybacks as well (they seem so infrequent).

Whatever the scenario he needs to go and just play, it'd be a shame if we couldn't bring him back but is what it is.

Maybe Girona could take him on loan?
 
117 M34 said:
Get £30m for him and move him on.
If he does go, we will get loads moaning about the fee we get because some city fans are convinced he's a world beater.
He is very talented but doesn't have the end product or commitment to be good enough for us.
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He was great before his horrific injury. He may never be the same player again. So a transfer or loan is sad but inevitable.
 
Stoned Rose said:
This is Manchester City mate. An elite club at the top of the tree striving for trophies. We haven’t got time for fucking about. You either come in and make an impact and/or show serious potential to do so, or we get someone else who will.

That’s not harsh, it’s reality.

Bobb hasn’t shown enough. Imo he’s very similar to how Macatee faired last season. Bags and bags of ability but doesn’t back himself to take his opportunity by the scruff of the neck. Doesn’t have that eye of the tiger. Not quite “ready” mentally.

Needs a loan.
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Literally the same was said for Foden when he was younger. Fair enough a couple uesrs younger, but if he and we had to be patient.

If he wants to leave fair enough, but don't think there is any reason to push him, myself. Doesn't take up any of the limit spaces in the squad, won't be on high wages.
 
Coatigan said:
Literally the same was said for Foden when he was younger. Fair enough a couple uesrs younger, but if he and we had to be patient.

If he wants to leave fair enough, but don't think there is any reason to push him, myself. Doesn't take up any of the limit spaces in the squad, won't be on high wages.
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Give over mate. Foden was 17 when he started featuring in the first team and he delivered from the word go. Granted, he wasn’t playing week in week out but when he did it was obvious he was class and going to be a first team star. Bobb isn’t in the same universe.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Give over mate. Foden was 17 when he started featuring in the first team and he delivered from the word go. Granted, he wasn’t playing week in week out but when he did it was obvious he was class and going to be a first team star. Bobb isn’t in the same universe.
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That discussion on foden was gong in when he was at least 19. People were calling for him to go on loan for 'playing time', both blues and outside the club. Which I noted when I said a couple years younger.

Bobb showed real potential. And he made an impact whenever hea featured, up until the injuries.

I have no issue with him leaving at all, if he wants to. Or another top player coming in either. But I am not on board for this active wishing him gone.

McAtee was different, less time on his contract, looking for a move, unlikely to feature. Bobb's been called on a lot more when available. Closer to Foden than McAtee in that regard.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Give over mate. Foden was 17 when he started featuring in the first team and he delivered from the word go. Granted, he wasn’t playing week in week out but when he did it was obvious he was class and going to be a first team star. Bobb isn’t in the same universe.
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I rate Bobb higher than Savinho (although he is not as bad as people think)

Bobb has better close control and can beat several players in a small amount of space.

What he appears to lack is genuine pace, which is a problem in the latest adaptation of Peps tactics
 
Love Bobb and while it would be a shame to lose him, I just can't see any other option unless he's able to become more of a killer and show a bit more ego, it's fine to do everything pep tells you for 90% of the time, but even he will tell the players they have to make up that final 10%.

He's doing everything right for me up until that 10% currently.
 
I like Oscar Bobb and would be saddened to see him leave, but he has to ask himself the question ' am i making the same promising impact in games that I used to do?' .... i don't think he is, and I don't think he does either, he knows he can do better, and he knows why he's spending more time on the bench than he'd like to.

The injury definitely came at the wrong time for him, as he tried to make an impression, but right now he doesn't appear to be as cavalier or as direct in his play as he once was, creating chances, chipping in with goals, showing great promise, and running at defenders .... a lot of his play right now involves safe passes, poor deliveries etc.

But should Semenyo arrive, then not only will Oscar Bobb be under threat .. Savinho will be, maybe even Marmoush too, who is also struggling for game time, and so goals too.

Pep wants players who can show the desire, and drive to both catch and pass Arsenal ... players who are prepared go the extra mile to ensure that happens, and at the moment he just isn't seeing that sort of commitment, or impact from Oscar Bobb.
 
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Coatigan said:
That discussion on foden was gong in when he was at least 19. People were calling for him to go on loan for 'playing time', both blues and outside the club. Which I noted when I said a couple years younger.

Bobb showed real potential. And he made an impact whenever hea featured, up until the injuries.

I have no issue with him leaving at all, if he wants to. Or another top player coming in either. But I am not on board for this active wishing him gone.

McAtee was different, less time on his contract, looking for a move, unlikely to feature. Bobb's been called on a lot more when available. Closer to Foden than McAtee in that regard.
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It was abundantly clear Pep rated Foden extremely highly. I remember him saying something along the lines of seeing Foden as an important player for us over the next decade. Pep knew Foden was going to be world class. Dont recall him making any similar proclamations about Bobb.

I don’t think Macatee was any different to Bobb. Macatee got plenty of opportunities last season he just didn’t do enough with them it was nothing to do with him being on a shorter contract or looking for a move, he simply didn’t show he was good enough for a team looking to win titles.
 
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