raymondkl92
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Been our best defender over the last two seasons so this would be a poor decision.
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Otamendi
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Could this mean we are permanently moving MD to midfield?
If Mangala moves there on loan for a season i'd see Demi being viewed as a midfielder, with Vinny and Otamendi starting and Denayer as third choice
Neville Kneville
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Dont see why giving up on mangala is such a surprise?
He had a full season, and never really looked right. He's now 24 so he's at an age where you'd expect his development to be coming to a head...also kompany is yet to convince he's back to his best, and that isn't guaranteed either.
You could end up with this guy partnering demi as a starting two, until demi leaves for river plate.
Chelsea will be a good barometer.
Because traditionally in football, if clubs did that, then many of the top defenders anywhere would never have become top defenders, including Kompany who played one game at cb & got chewed up by Peter Crouch & was generaly played as a def mid, Lescott who was prone to involvement in calamity.
Alan Hansen was in and out of the Liverpool team, Gary Pallister was a fucking comedy at Utd. What they all showed, is they have fight & determination to go with their physical mass & occasional excellent performances. As does Mangala.
What you are suggesting, is that if Otamendi struggles after us paying 30 mil for him, we fuck him off next season.
Because traditionally in football, if clubs did that, then many of the top defenders anywhere would never have become top defenders, including Kompany who played one game at cb & got chewed up by Peter Crouch & was generaly played as a def mid, Lescott who was prone to involvement in calamity.
Alan Hansen was in and out of the Liverpool team, Gary Pallister was a fucking comedy at Utd. What they all showed, is they have fight & determination to go with their physical mass & occasional excellent performances. As does Mangala.
What you are suggesting, is that if Otamendi struggles after us paying 30 mil for him, we fuck him off next season.
He had a whole season. At one point he actually seemed to be going backward. with training and a whole pre-season i'd say the club know by now if they have a decent player on their hands, or a bit of a flop...at stuttgart he was dire, as were others to be fair, but there was no pressure in that game really.
What YOU are suggesting is that city stick by a player for an extended amount of time in the chance he might come good...that is all well and good when you have a very dependable set of other defensive options, but city don't have that luxury at this time unfortunately. Vinny was terrible last season, demi is getting old and wishes for his move soon, denayer is unproven, and that is about your lot.
Bringing in a CB with experience, and a good recent track record is very important for city's title chances imo...Besides if it ends up being a loan deal, then mangala can develop a little more in spain, and possibly return a better player.
Either way though in the short term city will be better off.
We KNOW Otamendi is a quality cb. We HOPE that Mangala becomes one.
This, succinctly put.
ono
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Sadly this is becoming the norm for us at centre half. Our problems at the back stem from how we don't press or track back as a team. Not so much how we defend as individuals.Because traditionally in football, if clubs did that, then many of the top defenders anywhere would never have become top defenders, including Kompany who played one game at cb & got chewed up by Peter Crouch & was generaly played as a def mid, Lescott who was prone to involvement in calamity.
Alan Hansen was in and out of the Liverpool team, Gary Pallister was a fucking comedy at Utd. What they all showed, is they have fight & determination to go with their physical mass & occasional excellent performances. As does Mangala.
What you are suggesting, is that if Otamendi struggles after us paying 30 mil for him, we fuck him off next season.
With our style of football we have to accept that we will be open at the back from time to time.
We have to give Mangala another season. Unless Demi wants to leave, this makes zero sense.
I'm definitely not against the transfer, I just can't see us letting Mangala go for it to happen.Odds have gone from 8-1 against to 2-5 on.
That said I'm not privy to what's going on behind closed doors and if there are other reasons rather than footballing ones then who knows.
It certainly won't be because his first season was a bit hit and miss. The outlay and effort we put into signing him in the first place tells us we rate him at the club.
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