Our Finishing...

[NorCalBlue]

I think it cvomes down to what you're thinking when you get the chance. The best strikers think where in the goal am I going to put it, others think "am I going to score". Mindset thing, across the team, except KDB and Silva. Shots on goals though remains high. Would love to know our xG against goals scored for this year

Lots of xG data here - haven't had chance to look at it carefully yet myself...
https://understat.com/team/Manchester_City/2017

 

[NorCalBlue]

I think it cvomes down to what you're thinking when you get the chance. The best strikers think where in the goal am I going to put it, others think "am I going to score". Mindset thing, across the team, except KDB and Silva. Shots on goals though remains high. Would love to know our xG against goals scored for this year

Lots of xG data here - haven't had chance to look at it carefully yet myself...
https://understat.com/team/Manchester_City/2017

Finally had chance to have a look at the xG data, and to answer your question, GT, our xG in the league is 68 and we've scored 72, so we're actually overperforming using this metric.

However, having read up a bit on xG, I think it's not quite capturing our problem, since it only measures the chance of scoring from shots. For example, if Sterling had actually missed the ball instead of just missing the goal on Saturday, that wouldn't count as an expected goal, because there wouldn't have been a shot. So xG fails to capture all the times we get into fantastic positions, but don't pull the trigger, which means that if we faff around in the box, making 5 passes before someone gives the ball away, that also doesn't count towards xG. A better metric would also include positions that you could score from, if you did decided to shoot, as well as the actual shots. I suspect we'd be way below our expected number of goals if that was the case.

The website listed above is a real treasure trove, by the way, and amongst other things, shows the surprising stats that Sterling has actually scored more than his xG (his finishing has been better than average, when he shoots - even including Saturday's abomination!), but Gabriel Jesus is almost 3 goals behind the average striker in terms of goals from his shots taken.

 

[blueparrot]

Apparently we have the 3rd best front 3 in Europe so not too much to worry about.

3) Manchester City – 48 (Aguero 20, Sterling 18, Jesus 10)
English football’s top scorers by some margin, largely because this triptych is ably supported by Kevin De Bruyne (8), Leroy Sane (7) and David Silva (5). They were 24th on this list last season; it’s almost like Pep Guardiola improves players.

http://www.football365.com/news/revealing-europes-22-most-prolific-attacking-trios

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Finally had chance to have a look at the xG data, and to answer your question, GT, our xG in the league is 68 and we've scored 72, so we're actually overperforming using this metric.

However, having read up a bit on xG, I think it's not quite capturing our problem, since it only measures the chance of scoring from shots. For example, if Sterling had actually missed the ball instead of just missing the goal on Saturday, that wouldn't count as an expected goal, because there wouldn't have been a shot. So xG fails to capture all the times we get into fantastic positions, but don't pull the trigger, which means that if we faff around in the box, making 5 passes before someone gives the ball away, that also doesn't count towards xG. A better metric would also include positions that you could score from, if you did decided to shoot, as well as the actual shots. I suspect we'd be way below our expected number of goals if that was the case.

The website listed above is a real treasure trove, by the way, and amongst other things, shows the surprising stats that Sterling has actually scored more than his xG (his finishing has been better than average, when he shoots - even including Saturday's abomination!), but Gabriel Jesus is almost 3 goals behind the average striker in terms of goals from his shots taken.

Thanks for the site, really useful

I am not so bothered about "not shooting" because I know we have one of the highest shots per game ratio in the prem, maybe we could produce more I suppose.

another interesting thing is all the team have improved on taking their chances compared to last year. Maybe there isnt actually an issue with finishing this year. Ok, close thread.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Finally had chance to have a look at the xG data, and to answer your question, GT, our xG in the league is 68 and we've scored 72, so we're actually overperforming using this metric.

However, having read up a bit on xG, I think it's not quite capturing our problem, since it only measures the chance of scoring from shots. For example, if Sterling had actually missed the ball instead of just missing the goal on Saturday, that wouldn't count as an expected goal, because there wouldn't have been a shot. So xG fails to capture all the times we get into fantastic positions, but don't pull the trigger, which means that if we faff around in the box, making 5 passes before someone gives the ball away, that also doesn't count towards xG. A better metric would also include positions that you could score from, if you did decided to shoot, as well as the actual shots. I suspect we'd be way below our expected number of goals if that was the case.

The website listed above is a real treasure trove, by the way, and amongst other things, shows the surprising stats that Sterling has actually scored more than his xG (his finishing has been better than average, when he shoots - even including Saturday's abomination!), but Gabriel Jesus is almost 3 goals behind the average striker in terms of goals from his shots taken.

Sterling was remarkably clinical earlier on in the season.

 

[Ric]

We’ve got the sixth best conversion rate in the top five European leagues, apparently:

 

[Kompany is King]

6th best in Europe. Imagine if we scored a few more of our “easier” chances but then I guess most sides miss chances.
We just need to work on our finishing, the chances are being created.

 

[typicalcity...]

Has this thread been made off the back of Burnley? Weve scored 3-4 goals in most games this season and even more than that!

 

[jonmcity]

We’ve got the sixth best conversion rate in the top five European leagues, apparently:

Yes but we want to be the best in Europe.

 

[NorCalBlue]

Sterling was remarkably clinical earlier on in the season.

It also helps your xG numbers if you score the odd cracker, like Sterling's goal against Southampton, because it was probably about a 0.02 chance of scoring, so he gained almost a full goal compared to xG on that one shot.