Our name getting dragged into the murky world of ME politics - released UAE files in the Guardian

If we based our law on the bible it'd be pretty fucking nasty as well, execution by stoning for all women to have sex outside marriage and homosexuals for starters. Most of the abhorrent laws that have been repealed in western countries over the last 100 years had their basis in the Christian religion.
Christianity has nothing to do with stoning homosexuals and anyone associated with Christianity who supports Old Testament legalism is NOT a Christian . It's very easy to beat up on Christianity these days not just from secularist quarters but also from the Islamic State point of view . We need to be able to distinguish what is true and what is not .
 
Christianity has nothing to do with stoning homosexuals and anyone associated with Christianity who supports Old Testament legalism is NOT a Christian . It's very easy to beat up on Christianity these days not just from secularist quarters but also from the Islamic State point of view . We need to be able to distinguish what is true and what is not .

Jesus Christ said:
‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35)

‘Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18)

He's fairly clear on the matter of the old testament.
 
He's fairly clear on the matter of the old testament.
You have heard it said " hate your enemies etc but I say to you love your enemies .. Turn the other cheek "

The law won't pass away that is for sure but the new covenant is better .
There is no basis for objective morality on atheism .
As for the owners , they have their own philosophy and I'm sure it's based on a moderate view of Islam and a measured interpretation of the surahs in the Quran .
 
It's a tricky one this. From a 21st century secular western perspective I'm totally in favour of democracy and against rule by absolute monarchies or military dictatorships. The "Arab World" though is more comparable to Britain in the 16th or 17th century than Britain of today. We saw in Egypt the urban,intellectual, young fighting for democracy so that they could be like their contemporaries across the Med only to find that the majority in their country were rural, uneducated and religiously minded. The same pro democracy activists became desperate for the military to regain power and return them to something resembling the modern world. Ultimately these countries are not yet ready to be democracies. The UAE is right. We've been down this path before. In the immediate aftermath of the Second World War the too rapid decolonisation of many parts of the world, that was actively encouraged by the United States, backfired in many cases. Communism and civil war were all to often the end result in many cases. There are the times that the west should listen to their allies and not view everything from their own, totally secure, perspective.
 
Loads of Guardian hand wringing liberal apologists on here, they'll be loving this.......that's if they're not wrecking London in opposition to capitalism. All possession is theft, as long as its not theirs.
 
It's a tricky one this. From a 21st century secular western perspective I'm totally in favour of democracy and against rule by absolute monarchies or military dictatorships. The "Arab World" though is more comparable to Britain in the 16th or 17th century than Britain of today. We saw in Egypt the urban,intellectual, young fighting for democracy so that they could be like their contemporaries across the Med only to find that the majority in their country were rural, uneducated and religiously minded. The same pro democracy activists became desperate for the military to regain power and return them to something resembling the modern world. Ultimately these countries are not yet ready to be democracies. The UAE is right. We've been down this path before. In the immediate aftermath of the Second World War the too rapid decolonisation of many parts of the world, that was actively encouraged by the United States, backfired in many cases. Communism and civil war were all to often the end result in many cases. There are the times that the west should listen to their allies and not view everything from their own, totally secure, perspective.

How would we know? Camoron was best mates with a bloke last week who overthrew a democratically elected government. Democracy is fine outside the first world and west, providing the people vote for the approved western candidate.
 
How would we know? Camoron was best mates with a bloke last week who overthrew a democratically elected government. Democracy is fine outside the first world and west, providing the people vote for the approved western candidate.

If the democratically elected government tries to change the constitution and take over the judiciary provoking an internal uprising of large sections of it's own people then we have a few clues that all is not right with the regime. Egypt under Morsi wasn't Chile in the '70s: now that was unjustified western interference.
 
If the democratically elected government tries to change the constitution and take over the judiciary provoking an internal uprising of large sections of it's own people then we have a few clues that all is not right with the regime. Egypt under Morsi wasn't Chile in the '70s: now that was unjustified western interference.

They both were along with a much longer list of other countries.
 
I'm not in any clique or view it as a social club..I just think you're a **** and I'm a good judge of character

I'm glad the mods have noticed you..means my hunch wasn't unfounded..you have ulterior motives on this forum..don't quite know what they are yet..but it will all come out in the wash eventually..it always does

Do they have wifi at the Priory now?

I'm a **** and have ulterior motives for being here?

Do you want to please justify that statement you mentalist?

Cite anything I've ever said on here if you wish, I'm all ears. Oddball.

Love that you're free to post this gem and continuing posting while yesterday I got a 24 hour ban for a reason that I'm yet to be made aware of.

Don't mean to upset you or anything mate, but I don't give you a passing thought. And I have no idea what your obsession is.
 

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