Overseas Aid - the Debate

We give billion of pounds a year to India yet they can afford their own space programe while we cut police, fire departments and health. Logic.
 
mrcunny said:
Fuck um...They are taking the piss.most of these countries are corrupt and some even spend the money on arms...so fuck um..

Pakistan for one..spending billions on the nuclear bomb and hoping we will give aid..nah..

And who do they buy these arms off ??
 
117 M34 said:
NipHolmes said:
roaminblue said:
How do you mean end all world debt?

My bad, I missed THIRD out.
Third World Debt. Rich countries should pretty much write it off. Africa especially as they were the poor fuckers we enslaved. It would clear our slate and give them, a chance to build themselves.

-- Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:51 pm --

mrcunny said:
I believe we give 12-15 billion in aid and add this to the amount we throw at Brussels you can see why we are in the shit..imo

Which is my other opinion, I want out of the Europe banner.

UK that's it. Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy. The only time they should get our money is when we visit on holiday or buy something from them imho.


I've written off my debt many times and got back in to it again quickly by spending too much again, basically meaning that I always end up in debt even after clearing it all.
What would you do if the 3rd world countries are just as bad at spending money as I am and end up in big debt again 6 months after their debt has all been written off?

Research ending third world debt. Its deserves more respect than a rehashed post by me.

Not being funny but your lack of planning and self discipline shouldn't determine your opinion of other countries finances.

Africa is a rich but basic land. If they invested the money they pay in repayments then the only way is up. It also gives them the choice to determine their futures rather than us paying them to merely exist.
 
NipHolmes said:
117 M34 said:
NipHolmes said:
My bad, I missed THIRD out.
Third World Debt. Rich countries should pretty much write it off. Africa especially as they were the poor fuckers we enslaved. It would clear our slate and give them, a chance to build themselves.

-- Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:51 pm --



Which is my other opinion, I want out of the Europe banner.

UK that's it. Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy. The only time they should get our money is when we visit on holiday or buy something from them imho.


I've written off my debt many times and got back in to it again quickly by spending too much again, basically meaning that I always end up in debt even after clearing it all.
What would you do if the 3rd world countries are just as bad at spending money as I am and end up in big debt again 6 months after their debt has all been written off?

Research ending third world debt. Its deserves more respect than a rehashed post by me.

Not being funny but your lack of planning and self discipline shouldn't determine your opinion of other countries finances.

Africa is a rich but basic land. If they invested the money they pay in repayments then the only way is up. It also gives them the choice to determine their futures rather than us paying them to merely exist.


I was just using my own bad finance planning as an example of what a country may do - and there would be (at least) 1 country that after having their debt cancelled would blow a load more money and end up in debt again. What do we do then, let them off again? How long would that go on for?
 
117 M34 said:
NipHolmes said:
117 M34 said:
I've written off my debt many times and got back in to it again quickly by spending too much again, basically meaning that I always end up in debt even after clearing it all.
What would you do if the 3rd world countries are just as bad at spending money as I am and end up in big debt again 6 months after their debt has all been written off?

Research ending third world debt. Its deserves more respect than a rehashed post by me.

Not being funny but your lack of planning and self discipline shouldn't determine your opinion of other countries finances.

Africa is a rich but basic land. If they invested the money they pay in repayments then the only way is up. It also gives them the choice to determine their futures rather than us paying them to merely exist.


I was just using my own bad finance planning as an example of what a country may do - and there would be (at least) 1 country that after having their debt cancelled would blow a load more money and end up in debt again. What do we do then, let them off again? How long would that go on for?

We would give back on condition they didnt lend more than a % of gdp again.

You must realise that by simply keeping repayment funds they would suddenly start to kickstart economies, their debts are old rather than new on the whole.
 
NipHolmes said:
117 M34 said:
NipHolmes said:
Research ending third world debt. Its deserves more respect than a rehashed post by me.

Not being funny but your lack of planning and self discipline shouldn't determine your opinion of other countries finances.

Africa is a rich but basic land. If they invested the money they pay in repayments then the only way is up. It also gives them the choice to determine their futures rather than us paying them to merely exist.


I was just using my own bad finance planning as an example of what a country may do - and there would be (at least) 1 country that after having their debt cancelled would blow a load more money and end up in debt again. What do we do then, let them off again? How long would that go on for?

We would give back on condition they didnt lend more than a % of gdp again.

You must realise that by simply keeping repayment funds they would suddenly start to kickstart economies, their debts are old rather than new on the whole.

Of course, it is a great idea in theory, but in reality, some would abuse it, and anyway, it would be something that all of the countries that gave loans agreeing to it.
 
First hand experience.

Many people think aid is a cheque made out to "The Government of Tin Pottistan" or similar. Spend as you like, as long as you buy some of our guns.

Its more likely to be funding to a recognized charity in that country that needs funding for a specific project such as digging wells and providing irrigation.

Not to say though that there aren't some corrupt activities - funding provided for a project and 6 new mercs appear in the car park.

Govt provides funding and has inspectors in the country to check work is being done. All part of buying influence and friends in parts of the world.

Having said that I don't know why we provide aid to India or China or South Africa or Zimbabwe for that matter.

Suspect some aid programmes provide cover for other activities that need to go under the radar. ;)
 
NipHolmes said:
Sounds shit but I'd cut all state aid.

Charity starts at home and we already our own problems.

This^^ use the billions we spend abroad building houses and creating jobs in this country!
 

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