Papers tomorrow.....

[Shirley]

The Plastic fans the club is looking to attract will only follow City if they are Winners and wining the games in the USA and not just in England.
They will only come on board for the reflective glory and City's problem seems to be every time we tour America we do it with a team made up of Stiffs and not our first team and I feel this is counter productive.

We should either go with a full strength side or not at all imho

Exactly my thinking,from a securing a much larger piece of the global pie perspective,which is what this tour was aimed at doing,i don't think we've done ourselves justice.

The reality is,as was evident by shirts in the crowds,we have a long way to go in terms of catching the others.

There are new global fans out there to attract but not on the scale we see the rags and the dippers have, they cornered the market in the late 80's and the 90's.

 

[Shaelumstash]

The Plastic fans the club is looking to attract will only follow City if they are Winners and wining the games in the USA and not just in England.
They will only come on board for the reflective glory and City's problem seems to be every time we tour America we do it with a team made up of Stiffs and not our first team and I feel this is counter productive.

We should either go with a full strength side or not at all imho

its still better than nothing.

Not really lots of fans in the US now view us as losers and not as good as the rags and the dippers.

Why would US fans choose to follow us as opposed to the Dippers and the rags unlike us Mancunians they have no real affiliation to City and if you are going to pick a team to follow they will probably pick what they perceive as a wining side

Not sure if this post is meant seriously? Either way, American sports fans aren't stupid, they're not going to think the Champions Cup represents a "winning side" more than the Premier League does.

 

[bluegoal]

Can't be doing with this sort of needy paranoia. Find it pretty hard to believe some apparently sane, fully grown adults think there's obvious anti-City bias in the media. Any United, Liverpool, Chelsea supporter will tell you the media have an agenda against them as well, it's absolute drivel. The tabloids are c*nts, full stop, whoever wins a couple of games is the great new thing, whoever loses a couple is in crisis, just bloody ignore it, it's peripheral shite that doesn't matter a jot, just support your team for ninety minutes a couple of times a week and forget the other stuff, a large proportion of which is in your heads.

You obviously don't red the MUEN....

 

[Trevor morleys tash]

Mega bucks city crash at Rhyl

 

[Allendintiers]

The Plastic fans the club is looking to attract will only follow City if they are Winners and wining the games in the USA and not just in England.
They will only come on board for the reflective glory and City's problem seems to be every time we tour America we do it with a team made up of Stiffs and not our first team and I feel this is counter productive.

We should either go with a full strength side or not at all imho

Exactly my thinking,from a securing a much larger piece of the global pie perspective,which is what this tour was aimed at doing,i don't think we've done ourselves justice.

The reality is,as was evident by shirts in the crowds,we have a long way to go in terms of catching the others.

There are new global fans out there to attract but not on the scale we see the rags and the dippers have, they cornered the market in the late 80's and the 90's.

50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's. These are long established ties that link back to the UK. People who emigrated in the last few decades, to the children of people who emigrated 40 or 50 years ago. I met a Yank bloke in a bar in Brooklyn who after finding out I was from Manchester, told me all about how his Dad should have been one of the Busby Babes but got a knee injury...then moved to New York to work on the docks coz the pay was better than Salford docks.

 

[Rammyblues]

Fuck me we have only just begun on our project, we have decades to go, the rags and dippers so called plastic worldwide fan base wasn't built over 5 or 10 years probably much longer and further more built on their respective sucesses in Europe and at home. We have only just started. I won't be here in 20 years but maybe this argument would be more suited for then and it would be interesting to see.

Tyldesley will have a dilema if he is commentating,, will it be that magical night against Bayern or magical night in Istanbul wonder how long it takes him.

 

[blueju]

Has anyone at Real Madrid hung themselves yet in advance of the impending doomed season they are about to endure having been given a "footballing lesson" by the biggest bestest ever club on the cusp of their own "new dawn"

 

[nellyonthewing]

I spend a lot of time in the US. The future driving 'soccer' is the young hispanics. When I speak to them they know of the Rags,Dippers and that's pretty much it for EPL teams. They know of individual players Kun ,Silva etc but they don't know fa about City. My point simply was does the Club want to tap into that market ,if so try and win the damn thing in style . If we don't then stay at home.

 

[Mr HJ]

For me I would trade losing out in a pre-season tournament to having our best players rested and fit to last the whole of the real season. Sergio is a prime example - he needed the extra rest and parading him out just to build a few more links in the US would be detrimental to our effort especially in the Champions League. Same goes for the others who didn't even travel. Smart move by the club. I don't want to see Sergio hobble off and spend the whole campaign fighting muscle injuries. As for building the fan base this as a few have already said takes time. The east coast of the US is full of Irish/ Liverpudlian descendants who have followed the clubs their fathers and grandfathers followed. It will take time, effort and money but it will gradually happen - we would get more support by playing in the CL final than playing in a pre-season competition final. Also owning a stake in NYFC will boost our profile no end. Finally, I don't care what the press say in the UK. They hold no interest for me with their poorly written and poorly edited diatribes about how City have ruined football. Stick to reading forums like this it's much more entertaining.

 

[Vienna_70]

We learned that the whole attack to try and boost our presence in America over the last 4 years has been a complete waste of time!

Liverpool out numbered us 10 to 1 in New York, where we have had a City in the Community scheme running for 3 years, have played on numerous occasions, have set-up a football club for the city with a large advertising budget running adverts 24-7. And this is on the back of us winning the league twice in that time period too.

Liverpool have put zero effort in to building there fan base over there, and have won nothing of note for almost 10 years, yet we are as far behind them as ever. Scary to think just how far behind Utd we must be.

City need to rethink if we ever hope to get big in USA. A major USA based sponsor would probably boost popularity 20% over night, but is that likely with our links to Abu Dhabi? Probably not.

I disagree.

Three or four years is a very short timespan compared with how long the rags and slippers have had to build up their fan bases in the States - and elsewhere.

The rags have had more than fifty years to exploit the Munich air disaster as well as a long and successful period under Busby in the 50s and 60s, and 20 years of domination under the piss-can.

The slippers were by far and away the most successful English team of the 70s and 80s. Four European Cups and many league and cup wins means they too have a huge fanbase throughout the world.

It takes time to build loyal support and donating a pitch for underprivileged kids three years ago is hardly going to translate into bums on seats at Yankee Stadium this summer. Note the word underprivileged. It's doubtful that these kids would be able to afford tickets for the Liverpool match anyway.

The people at the top of the club are planning for the long term and I'm sure they realise it will take years of success to build our support in the States and around the world.

After all, Rome wasn't built in a day.