Paul Gascoigne - terrible waste

Gascoigne got very lucky by being very good, not world class, at a time england were shit,injurys alone stopped paul lake being twice the player “good old gazza” was
If you check out gazzas stats what really sticks out is his goal scoring record at rangers when he was well past his best. What this proves is what an utterly wank one and a half horse race Scottish football was (is).
 
If you check out gazzas stats what really sticks out is his goal scoring record at rangers when he was well past his best. What this proves is what an utterly wank one and a half horse race Scottish football was (is).
Exactly mate, i remember him tearing us apart at maine road with lineker, but them days were few & far between, till like you say he appeared in a scotish pub league
 
Disgraceful tackle. And was at the time too, even by the standards then.

As an aside, Gary Charles went on to have demons not too dissimilar to Gascoigne.

Gascoigne is an arsehole and someone to have sympathy for - they aren't mutually exclusive.

He is also not fit to compare careers and achievements with some of the other greats of the English game, whilst simultaneously being significantly more technically talented than most of them as a footballer. That's not a contradiction either. His pure footballing ability was off the scale. But, as others have pointed out, this isn't the only characteristic that goes into making a truly all time great footballer.

And, yes, in my opinion he was never anywhere near as good once he had that injury. In fact, I would say he was pretty shite, at the highest level, once he left Lazio. He was picked on reputation for too long before Hoddle binned him from England.
I genuinely once had a conversation with Gary Charles about that tackle. On High Pavement in the Lace Market. Sat on a wall. We were talking for about an hour. He genuinely didn’t have anything bad to say about Gascoigne, despite my best efforts to elicit a different response.
 
Disgraceful tackle. And was at the time too, even by the standards then.

As an aside, Gary Charles went on to have demons not too dissimilar to Gascoigne.

Gascoigne is an arsehole and someone to have sympathy for - they aren't mutually exclusive.

He is also not fit to compare careers and achievements with some of the other greats of the English game, whilst simultaneously being significantly more technically talented than most of them as a footballer. That's not a contradiction either. His pure footballing ability was off the scale. But, as others have pointed out, this isn't the only characteristic that goes into making a truly all time great footballer.

And, yes, in my opinion he was never anywhere near as good once he had that injury. In fact, I would say he was pretty shite, at the highest level, once he left Lazio. He was picked on reputation for too long before Hoddle binned him from England.
Gascoigne was indeed a tremendously skilful player and I agree that he wasn't the same after his self-inflicted injury in the FA Cup Final. Who knows how good he would have gone on to be, especially if he'd managed to keep away from the sauce for any serious length of time.

However, I'm struggling to remember too many England games in which he turned in a dominant performance prior to that injury. The World Cup semi has been mentioned but I don't recall him standing out above all the other players in that game. In fact, his most memorable moment in an England shirt was long after the injury when he scored THAT goal against Scotland at Euro 96.

I don't get people dissing Foden either. For me, Foden arguably has a higher ceiling than even Gazza had before his decline. Foden is also a more versatile player who can play in a variety of positions. And to that end, there's also an argument that if it wasn't for the injury that tragically cut short his career, Paul Lake would've gone on to be a more influential player for England than Gazza ever was.

I would also add that Gascoigne wasn't as unique in English football as many claim to be. There are plenty of footballers who had the tools to become the very best but never made it due to various demons and excesses. For me, Robin Friday is one such player. When it comes to going off the rails, Gascoigne had fuck all on him and coupled with his disciplinary record being so bad, clubs further up the pyramid shied away from signing him. Yet by all accounts, Friday was an insanely skilful footballer. Clive Thomas reffed games involving the world's best players, yet claims Friday scored the best goal he's ever seen on a football pitch when officiating a match between Reading and Tranmere:

"I'll never forget it", Thomas recalled. "It was the sheer ferocity of the shot on the volley ... over his shoulder. ... If it hadn't gone into the top corner of the net it would have broken the goalpost. Even up against the likes of Pelé and Cruyff, that rates as the best goal I have ever seen." Reading went on to win the game 5–0.[n 3] When Thomas told Friday after the game that he had never seen a better goal, the Londoner replied, "Really? You should come down here more often, I do that every week."
 
The thread title just needs an "r" adding to the end of the last word.

Good player. Bit of a bell end though. Can't argue with his goal against Scotland at Euro 96!

Quite entertaining when he turned up with a fishing rod for Raoul Moat also.
 
The thread title just needs an "r" adding to the end of the last word.

Good player. Bit of a bell end though. Can't argue with his goal against Scotland at Euro 96!

Quite entertaining when he turned up with a fishing rod for Raoul Moat also.
It was only against Scotland, though.

;-)

*sits back and awaits our Caledonian brethren offering an opinion on my parentage*
 

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