BillyShears
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Unintentionally you completely make my point. They are indeed signing a superstar. We're signing footballers. There's an important distinction in there. Messi is a footballer. Ronaldo is a superstar.
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Paul Pogba
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Unintentionally you completely make my point. They are indeed signing a superstar. We're signing footballers. There's an important distinction in there. Messi is a footballer. Ronaldo is a superstar.
If you choose to spend a ludicrous amount on Pogba you're fucking up your future transfers for the foreseeable future as well.Crazy revisionism on this thread, United are signing a superstar. Simple. The money is ridiculous but why do you care if it's within their means?
TFC
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I think the comparison to Kanye is a pretty good one. Pogba's ego and his belief in what his talent is is as far away from the reality as Kanye's actual talent is in comparison to his ego. Both men are incredibly talented but neither man is ever going to be what they think they are.
The numbers being talked about since last night are utterly incredible. To put them in perspective it would make Pogba along with Neymar and Messi the best paid player in the world. In fact I think he'll be earning more than Neymar. For someone who currently isn't even the best midfielder at Juventus that quite frankly is ludicrous.
Pep said last week that the most important characteristic he looks for in a player is their belief in the idea of the 'team' as opposed to the individual. Pogba is someone who is incredibly driven and self motivated, but it's also built around personal achievement and personal accolades rather than collective ones (hence his regular comments about wanting to win the Ballon d'or). He isn't a Pep player.
It's a shame in a way that his transfer fee and wages will probably overshadow his abilities but when the deal itself is so far removed from the reality of the market place it's no surprise. If he goes to United it will end in tears and a move to Spain I'd say within 3 years. I still expect Madrid though to have something to say about him this window.
Put far more eloquently than I could have put it. Its good and well wanting the best available players to improve us as a team but I just dont see Pogba as a Pep player. If he isnt pursuing Pogba theres a reason for it, and thats more than good enough for me.
Newman Noggs
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If those sorts of figures are remotely accurate and the transfer does go through it would mean that the rags now have another player who is bigger than the club. By whatever criteria you use, that cannot be healthy. It would also mean they absolutely have to win the league. Anything less would be embarrassing failure.
I so hope this all true.
I so hope this all true.
They've lost their identity, Mourinho Ibra Pogba it will all just end in tears and what makes it more laughable is how desperate they are that they can't see it haha.If those sorts of figures are remotely accurate and the transfer does go through it would mean that the rags now have another player who is bigger than the club. By whatever criteria you use, that cannot be healthy. It would also mean they absolutely have to win the league. Anything less would be embarrassing failure.
I so hope this all true.
I think the comparison to Kanye is a pretty good one. Pogba's ego and his belief in what his talent is is as far away from the reality as Kanye's actual talent is in comparison to his ego. Both men are incredibly talented but neither man is ever going to be what they think they are.
The numbers being talked about since last night are utterly incredible. To put them in perspective it would make Pogba along with Neymar and Messi the best paid player in the world. In fact I think he'll be earning more than Neymar. For someone who currently isn't even the best midfielder at Juventus that quite frankly is ludicrous.
Pep said last week that the most important characteristic he looks for in a player is their belief in the idea of the 'team' as opposed to the individual. Pogba is someone who is incredibly driven and self motivated, but it's also built around personal achievement and personal accolades rather than collective ones (hence his regular comments about wanting to win the Ballon d'or). He isn't a Pep player.
It's a shame in a way that his transfer fee and wages will probably overshadow his abilities but when the deal itself is so far removed from the reality of the market place it's no surprise. If he goes to United it will end in tears and a move to Spain I'd say within 3 years. I still expect Madrid though to have something to say about him this window.
if he keeps his agent and moves to united , I easily see him asking for another move in 3 years...to Madrid / Barca. Removing my blue tinted glass , to be honest that might also be the case if he moves to us...given that it is openly known he prefers to move to Real and the only reason he hasn't is that real don't believe in Juventus's evaluation of Pogba's worth.
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Still not entirely sure he'll end up over there. He allegedly wants Real, Real want him but at a lower price and probably lowere wages. No doubt Mino is trying to convince him to take 3 years at the swamp then move to Madrid thus giving Mino 2 big fees. I think if Real really want him and make a proper play for him, they'll get him.
However if Real decide against dealing with Raiola I think Juve will be happy, despite any noises to the contrary, to take the money. Pogba and Raiola can get any wages and fees they want at united, they're that desperate for credibility, so I think Pogba will swallow pride and take the huge wages as long as Real aren't at the table.
However if Real decide against dealing with Raiola I think Juve will be happy, despite any noises to the contrary, to take the money. Pogba and Raiola can get any wages and fees they want at united, they're that desperate for credibility, so I think Pogba will swallow pride and take the huge wages as long as Real aren't at the table.
I have an affiliate partner in the south who's told me that Willian says Pogba to United is as good as done.
Not that it's signed & sealed yet, but it's all agreed awaiting contracts
hmm..in line with what Di Marzio said yesterday....depends on Real now
dannyboiblue
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I think its funny sold him for a bag of crisps buy him back for 100m. Him zlatan and the simple one are a desaster waiting to happen.
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