Paul Pogba

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The Guardian writes that he is “open” to a move across and is “interested” to work with Pep.
Is this not the most obvious case of obviousness ever in the history of ever.
 
Let‘s face it, United have been dysfunctional for a decade, with the exception of FR37 everyone else has hit the buffers. I have always rated Pogba, I also think Pep could get a lot out of him.
if it does happen I will be cool with it.
 
Very similar vibes to our interest in Ronnie - if we could secure him on a team friendly deal it's a no brainer but I'm pretty sure other teams in Europe will offer him more and we shall then see how serious he is about working with Pep. Not bothered either way but if he were to come there is no doubt he would have a rebound career wise. Ultimately I think the club is just showing interest in a number of midfielders and I think they will go for a much younger player.
 
hes on a free, but he will be able to get a decent signing on fee and very good wages, we wont pay what he will be offered,he doesn't have ,or hasn't shown the mentality needed for our squad,i said in the summer i didn't want ronaldo and i certainly don't want this fucking clown.

i trust pep to make the right decisions for the club
 
OrigamiNinja said:
It’s a tough one this.

On one hand I have spent the past few years calling him a lazy twat and laughing at him and United.

On the other, I look the current make-up of our midfield and think that there is space for him…

Fern is going.

Gundogan looks completely fucked to me. Maybe it’s this back injury he is reportedly carrying but I do worry that he is just getting slower and slower, and will be having less and less of an impact for us.

Rodri, Bernie and KDB are great, but we have no real assurances that Bernie wants to stay and KDBs fitness is a continuous concern. Plus, none of them can play every single week.

Additionally, it doesn’t look like Pep thinks Foden or Grealish are ready to play in the middle for us, nor does it look like any kids will be breaking through any time soon.

I think we need another 2 midfielders and I doubt we have the money to go and spunk £50m+ on both of them.

From a financial perspective picking Pogba up on a free makes a lot of sense, but only if he plays at a level he hasn’t managed to consistently do for United. It’s easy to talk about their woes (in fact I fucking love talking about them) but Pogba is part of the problem and we can’t just say “oh it’s not his fault, it’s cos United are shit”. There’s plenty of shite teams out there that have players that perform well more often than not. He hasn’t.

For him to be a success here he needs to completely change his attitude, but maybe he knows this? If I were him, I wouldn’t be happy that most of the fans in this country think I am a bit of a joke and I would want to prove them wrong. In fairness to him, the easy option would be to fuck the PL off and go and have it easy at somewhere like PSG. If he decides that he wants to stay in the PL and move to City, maybe we should take that as a really positive sign that he means business.
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Without doubt there are plenty of question marks over Pogba and he is older than our ideal targets usually are. However, the guy that plays for France would be a useful squad member and there are plenty of examples of big clubs buying older players and it proving a good purchase.

Also, Pep and his coaches believe you can still improve players into their 30's.

Signing Pogba would be a big risk but he could be sensationally good in our team.

I would much prefer De Jong or Rice but, as Tolmie pointed out, who knows what the budget is. Now if we signed Pogba and De Jong, that might not to too dissimilar in total cost to signing Rice for the reported asking price of £150m.
 
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mosssideblue said:
When I see new pages upon pages on this thread I think omg, something must be occurring.

I think most of us are saying we don't want him here based on what he has been doing at the scum.

IIRC though, the window when he signed for the rags, we thought he was destined for us and there were masses on here desperate for him to come here

There was certainly hype for him then. Has he lost his game or have the rags ruined another highly regarded player?
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I wanted City to sign him from Juve. I bet Pogba wishes he had joined us.
 
MichaelFrontzeck'sBathroom said:
You make good points, I have a few concerns about this one given he is quite injury prone, isn’t particularly a hard worker (be amazed if pep got that out of him) and would demand a ridiculous wage and signing on fee.
No doubting his ability but I don’t believe he is the correct fit for us going forward.
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Mate what you're not fully considering is the toxic environment he's in. He made it clear last summer that he was leaving on a free this summer.

There's a difference between being lazy & unmotivated. Yes, he's had injuries, but hasn't KDB, didn't Aguero? What about Laporte? We bought Gundog injured & like the $6m Man, we had the technology to rebuild him.

Think about it. All you've accused Pogba of being wasn't ever the case at Juvé & isn't the case with France. Think why? He can't single handedly repair all that seems wrong at ManUre, & as for being lazy? Would you rather a true footballing talent who uses his head & the ball, or a headless chicken who can run a marathon every match?

It's Pep we're talking about here, so there's your answer. We don't even coach players to slide tackle, let alone rely on players who specialise in running about all game, but offer little else in the way of big game quality.

We need players who can competently put their foot on the ball & carry out Pep's instructions with skill & dexterity. That's Pep's philosophy. Keep the ball & use it wisely & intelligently & we then negate the need for a Gerry Gow.
 
Ric said:
I don’t think Pep gets signings forced on him tbh.
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I'm damn certain that no one gets signed for the first team squad that Pep does not want. In fact, I am astonished that anyone would think that. Pep may not select all out targets but he will tell Txiki what he needs and have final veto from a footballing point of view - someone else will make the financial calls.
 
I am trying to take partisanship out of my opinion of Pogba. If I imagine he is coming from psg, and had a similar performance record over the last 5 years, I would not be excited by the signing.
When I add in to my thought processes that he's coming from 'that lot' it becomes Impossible to see any upsides at all.
His character, his history, his attention seeking, his lack of effort, and off field bullshit are all black marks.
If we sign him I will trust in the club management, cos they have rarely let us down, but as soon as he puts in a shit show performance, or an half arsed attempt to track back, or is the cause of a goal or defeat, the knives will well and truly be out for him from the fans.
He must understand that he has to be 20% above the effort and endeavour of any other City player, because the enormous 'rag' drag factor will be with him until he scores a goal that wins us a trophy.
He is better going to psg, there the fans will love him. If he snubs big, big money and sign on fee at psg and settles for trophies at City, he may be willing to turn his nose-diving career around.
Let's see.
 
OB1 said:
Without doubt there are plenty of question marks over Pogba and he is older than our ideal targets usually are. However, the guy that plays for France would be a useful squad member and there are plenty of examples of big clubs buying older players and it proving a good purchase.

Also, Pep and his coaches beleive you can still improve players into their 30's.

Signing Pogba would be a big risk but he could be sensationally good in our team.

I would much prefer De Jong or Rice but, as Tolmie pointed out, who knows what the budget is. Now if we signed Pogba and De Jong, that might not to too dissimilar in total cost to signing Rice for the reported asking price of £150m.
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His age doesn’t worry me at all. 29 was old for a player 20 years ago, it isn’t now.

I think weighing it up against other potential options is the pertinent point. For me, anything above £60m/£70m for Rice is just throwing money away. West Ham might say “we want £150m” but I want a night with Margot Robbie and that won’t be happening either. If we were looking at a midfielder and saying money isn’t an issue, Rice wouldn’t even enter my thinking. The money should be going on Bellingham.

Alternatively, FDJ in some form of swap deal for Sterling would be a good option. It probably suits all parties, and as we have seen in the past the figures in these deals can be massaged somewhat for FFP benefits.

All transfers have an element of risk, even Pogba on a free. If we get the United Pogba, he might not have cost anything in transfer fee but approx. £300k pw for someone who is half-arsed isn’t going to sit well with many. There will be strong views either way, but if Pep thinks he can get him playing then I think at his best he gets in our side.
 
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